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Thanks for your responses blownb310 and mtsarpilot and bluecar1.

I've fired off an email to my sales rep to see if she can check with the service techs and I'll go from there.

Thanks again.
 
All this talk of swapping wheel and tyre (tire) sizes, what happens to the rolling diameter of the wheel with its tire, and its effect on speedometer and odometer readings ? :confused:
 
All this talk of swapping wheel and tyre (tire) sizes, what happens to the rolling diameter of the wheel with its tire, and its effect on speedometer and odometer readings ? :confused:
The overall wheel diameter should remain the same, meaning the speedo and odometer are not affected.

Bigger rims need tyres with less distance between the rim and the road to maintain the same diameter, but to compensate for the narrower sidewall they need to be wider - which contributes to the poorer fuel economy.
 
The overall wheel diameter should remain the same, meaning the speedo and odometer are not affected.

Bigger rims need tyres with less distance between the rim and the road to maintain the same diameter, but to compensate for the narrower sidewall they need to be wider - which contributes to the poorer fuel economy.
Thanks for info, 15" 16" 17" wheels!, it reminds me of the two Ronnies "I know my place" sketch

 
All this talk of swapping wheel and tyre (tire) sizes, what happens to the rolling diameter of the wheel with its tire, and its effect on speedometer and odometer readings ? :confused:
the 15" 195/65R15 have exactly the same circumference as the 17" 225/45R17 so should be no affect on speedo accuracy
 
My sales rep just told me to verify the size of the existing tyres and bring them in when I go to pick up the new vehicle, said the service tech said should likely be no problem. I've been dealing with the same dealership for over 20 years. So I've given them a good deal of business over the years.

Also, I've since read that narrower, higher-profile tyres actually perform better in winter conditions than wider, lower-profile tyres as there's better point-pressure to cut through snow and ice.

So, if it all works, win-win!
 
I suspect you may get a reply of "no" if they sense they could make a sale of new rims
I've been dealing with them for over 20 years, so I'm good customer, and I don't think they'd do that.

only other thing to check is your insurance provider, but if you have had winter wheels before you have probably done this
Because of the winters we get here in Ottawa, my insurance will deduct 5% once I tell them I have winter tyres for my new car as long as I promise to have them on by November 20th and keep them on until April 15th.
 
I've been dealing with them for over 20 years, so I'm good customer, and I don't think they'd do that.
good to hear, unfortunately some of the dealer I have dealt with in the past make me a little cynical of how customers are seen by sales staff

Because of the winters we get here in Ottawa, my insurance will deduct 5% once I tell them I have winter tyres for my new car as long as I promise to have them on by November 20th and keep them on until April 15th.
good result then

here in the UK they are not as sensible when people try and improve safety by using tyres relevant for the weather by trying to charge you extra (either as an admin fee or classing you a higher risk as likely to drive in bad weather) although it is changing slowly
 
here in the UK they are not as sensible when people try and improve safety by using tyres relevant for the weather by trying to charge you extra (either as an admin fee or classing you a higher risk as likely to drive in bad weather) although it is changing slowly
That's too bad that insurers in the UK don't see the benefit of winter tyres for improved safety where snowy weather is likely.

In Canada, a few provinces (Québec for one) require by law that all vehicles be equipped with winter tyres in winter. Other provinces (including Ontario) are working on legislation for the same. But then we do get more snow than at least the southern 3rd of the UK (I imagine the North and Scotland must get a fair bit at least—but that's getting off topic, me thinks).
 
Got interested in used wheels & tires. Luckily, our Hyundai Elantra (5 bolt, 114.3mm wheels) & 2008 Accent (4 bolt, 100mm wheels) have very common wheels/tires on the used market. I love different wheels, front & back. Nailed superlative deals..... Two sweet 18inch chrome wheels with mounted good tread excellent tires- $60....Three excellent 18 inch wheels with mounted good tread excellent tires-$50....15 inch wheels for the Accent....Twice bought 4 nice tires, $20 each purchase..... Two free tires(one now on the Accent). The wider, taller wheels/tires on the Accent drive the car much better & dropped rpms 6%(doesn't sound like much, but it is nice). Been three sets of used wheels/tires on the Elantra & they have been excellent (bolted right on & never needed balancing). All wheel-brake clearances, center bores & off-sets were never a problem.
ANYHOW..... got interested in a Chevy Bolt.... but it has 5 bolt, 105mm wheel bolt pattern. Since the Hyundai Ioniq has 5 bolt, 114.3mm wheels, I'll wait for the Ioniq EV to come out with 250mile range. I'm sure all my used Elantra wheels will fit & the lower profile tires will also fit.
My excellent deals have been so good, I have no more room.... & even had to turn down--four sweet chrome wheels, with excellent tread, good tires-$50!!!! Anyone got extra room so I can store THAT good deal? ha ha ha
 
All this talk of swapping wheel and tyre (tire) sizes, what happens to the rolling diameter of the wheel with its tire, and its effect on speedometer and odometer readings ? :confused:
My speedometer is off 6% & my odometer is off 9% with larger used tires. But my old Tom Tom GPS tells me my accurate speed & my accurate distance to my destination. As for figuring mpg, all I have to do is add 9% to my odometer reading(I even adjust for tire wear, so my mpg remains accurate). I am a feather footer, & surprisingly, my true mpg is NOT downwardly effected more than 1% to 2% with larger wheels & tires. Plus my highway rpms are lowered, making for easier work for the engine.
 
Just got a 2017 Hybrid Limited. Dealership recommends 16" wheels for winter and says 15" will not clear the brakes. 16" rec spec in Canada is 205/55/R16 91H E46 16x6.5J 5x114.3
 
Just got a 2017 Hybrid Limited. Dealership recommends 16" wheels for winter and says 15" will not clear the brakes. 16" rec spec in Canada is 205/55/R16 91H E46 16x6.5J 5x114.3
I am very surprised. I thought all Hybrid Ioniq worldwide had the same brakes. Does that Canadian Hybrid Limited have special brakes sold with no other Hybrid Ioniq? I have the Hybrid Executive which seems to be the equivalent in France of the Hybrid Limited, and in winter I replace the standard-issue 17'' wheels with 15'' winter wheels which sere sold by my Hyundai dealer.

Because of its brake width, the Electric Ioniq is never fitted with wheels below 16''. Isn't your dealer confusing hybrid with electric specifications?

If your hybrid can have 15'' wheels like Hybrid Ioniqs in other countries, I would suggest to make that choice: narrower wheels are not only cheaper and more fuel-efficient, they also provide better grip in winter conditions because they transfer more pressure to the ground.
 
Just got a 2017 Hybrid Limited. Dealership recommends 16" wheels for winter and says 15" will not clear the brakes. 16" rec spec in Canada is 205/55/R16 91H E46 16x6.5J 5x114.3
The Blue and SE trims in Canada come standard with 15" rims. I doubt there would be sufficient changes between the Blue/SE and the Limited trims to prohibit the use of 15" rims. I intend to use 15" on my Limited for winter as well.

16" is standard on all trims of the EV in Canada. Like Fracino said, I think your dealer is mixing up the specs for the EV and HEV.

See the attached images from the Canadian Ioniq brochure.
 

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I'll have to ask them a 3rd time. I would assume 15" as well... Especially as the owner manual lists info for 15"&17" but not the 16". Will follow up after re-check.
 
it may be that 15" alloys have a slightly larger internal diameter than 15" steel rims meaning the steel rims may not clear the brake calipers

that's the only possibility I could think of
 
My understanding is that the EV and PHEV have 16'' rims in all trims because unlike the HEV, their brakes cannot be cleared by 15'' rims. And that would be true with alloy rims as well as steel rims.

Why would the EV and PHEV have larger brakes? Maybe because the larger battery causes the center of gravity to be further to the rear than on the HEV?
 
Just got a 2017 Hybrid Limited. Dealership recommends 16" wheels for winter and says 15" will not clear the brakes. 16" rec spec in Canada is 205/55/R16 91H E46 16x6.5J 5x114.3
Went back to dealership - they now say that Hyundai is only offering 16" steel rims for Ioniq Hybrid - which has own distinct part number. Admit that indeed 15" would likely work, no issue with brake clearance, but say don't know how they fit is as they haven't tried yet. Not feeling a whole lot of confidence in the dealership service center at this point. This should be an easy question for them...
 
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