[JonathanB]

I have done that and the keyfob deadlocks the car as expected. No way to unlock it apart from the keyfob (or I suppose the hidden key) even if the fob is in the car itself!


The automatic lock function appears not to deadlock the car - the doors can still be unlocked from inside if required.

 

[Rene Scheffers]

I have done that and the keyfob deadlocks the car as expected. No way to unlock it apart from the keyfob (or I suppose the hidden key) even if the fob is in the car itself!


The automatic lock function appears not to deadlock the car - the doors can still be unlocked from inside if required.

Do I understand this right?? Even with the fob inside the car you cant get out? Thats even more critical than initially suggested. Absolutely NOT GOOD. How did you get out then?

 

[JonathanB]

If you lock the car with the key fob, then you need to unlock it with the key fob. This is regardless of whether the fob is inside or outside the car. You cannot unlock with the door locks or the driver's unlock button in this instance.


If the car locks itself with the autolocking while driving function, then you can unlock with the door lock or the button (but it re-locks immediately if you are still moving). I haven't tried all permutations of this.

 

[knutsp]

If you lock the car with the key fob, then you need to unlock it with the key fob.

Not true here.

When car is locked with the fob it can either be unlocked by:
a) Pressing the button on the door handle while the key fob is proxy
b) Open from inside, regardless of key fob proximity (no deadlock)

 

[Rene Scheffers]

Ok, sorry for my misunderstanding. Still, I find it very peculiar that apparently Hyundai differentiates car lock systems over models and even per model by country.
That could indicate safety legislation on this topic is different but I doubt that.

 

[knutsp]

I find it very peculiar that apparently Hyundai differentiates car lock systems over models and even per model by country.

Indeed!

 

[JonathanB]

I’m in the UK and tried it sitting in passenger seat holding the keyfob - completely deadlocked. Will try sitting in driver’s seat and placing fob near buttons or ignition.

I’ll also try the auto lock function after driving but before it auto unlocks.

 

[bluecar1]

I’ll also try the auto lock function after driving but before it auto unlocks.

at speeds over 9mph / 15kmh it auto relocks the doors

 

[JonathanB]

So, I have tested some more - I have a UK Plug-in with Premium SE trim level

Locking with the key fob deadlocks the doors, regardless of whether the key fob is inside or outside of the car. The doors can only be unlocked with the key fob.

The auto lock function locks the doors in the same way that locking the doors with the button on the driver's door does. You can unlock the doors with the button, the door lock on the door or just open the door (unless the child locks are on in the back).

With this info, I have no problem with the auto lock function.

 

[knutsp]

Locking with the key fob deadlocks the doors, regardless of whether the key fob is inside or outside of the car. The doors can only be unlocked with the key fob.

The auto lock function locks the doors in the same way that locking the doors with the button on the driver's door does. You can unlock the doors with the button, the door lock on the door or just open the door (unless the child locks are on in the back).

With this info, I have no problem with the auto lock function.

So, with a UK PHEV, there are two kinds of locking:

1. Locking with fob = deadlock, as from inside
2. Locking with door button or automatic locking when at 10 mph = locking, but no deadlock, as from inside

Very strange. I would have thought the car was either locked or unlocked. Now we have a third state.

 

[BDG]

So, with a UK PHEV, there are two kinds of locking:

1. Locking with fob = deadlock, as from inside
2. Locking with door button or automatic locking when at 10 mph = locking, but no deadlock, as from inside

Very strange. I would have thought the car was either locked or unlocked. Now we have a third state.

locking with outside door button same as fob = deadlock
locking with inside door button = locking

This is not unique to Hyundai Ioniq :- https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_b...eing_unreasonable/2369791-To-think-the-bloody-car-should-unlock-from-the-inside

 

[SamBGB]

Am I correct in thinking if the fob is taken out of the car and goes out of range it will lock automatically? and is it in this situation that is deadlocking the car? or are you having to press the lock button on the remote keyfob for the car to deadlock.

 

[BDG]

Am I correct in thinking if the fob is taken out of the car and goes out of range it will lock automatically? and is it in this situation that is deadlocking the car? or are you having to press the lock button on the remote keyfob for the car to deadlock.

Not correct, if you get out of car and walk away without locking it stays unlocked. If you unlock car without opening a door, the car will relock automatically after 30 seconds

 

[knutsp]

locking with outside door button same as fob = deadlock
locking with inside door button = locking

So, with a UK PHEV:

A: Double locking happens when locking from outside, either by fob or door handle.
B: Single locking happens from inside, either by interior door knob or automatic (if set to).

Still strange. Especially as this is not the case here (outside UK).

 

[BDG]

So, with a UK PHEV:

A: Double locking happens when locking from outside, either by fob or door handle.
B: Single locking happens from inside, either by interior door knob or automatic (if set to).

Still strange. Especially as this is not the case here (outside UK).

That's correct in UK .
It's different in UK and I have been unable to find out why.

 

[SamBGB]

Not correct, if you get out of car and walk away without locking it stays unlocked. If you unlock car without opening a door, the car will relock automatically after 30 seconds

Ah ok gotcha, in that case the process will be the same for me. The Zafira Tourer used to deadlock using the key fob so I got into the habit of telling passengers if they would like to lock the car to reach over and kit the lock button inside the car itself (it was on the centre console on the Tourer). Which from what I am reading is how the locking works on the ioniq, so if they use the button and lock it from the inside they will able to exit the vehicle if required.

I did always find it a bit daft you couldn't just unlock the Tourer from the inside if I used the button BUT when I did it would activate the alarm anyway and the person sitting inside would no only be locked in but the alarm would be blaring.

Guess its just a matter of process that just to mention to the passengers if they would like to lock the car (if they feel more safe) then they can do so using the button on the drivers door (if that is where its located). Or perhaps if you trust the person which I am sure you do if your leaving them in the car just leave them the fob just incase.

 

[BDG]

I got into the habit of telling passengers if they would like to lock the car to reach over and kit the lock button inside the car itself

This is where there is a problem with the Ioniq. The door lock rocker on drivers door does not work when car is switched off, if you use the button on inside door handle, it only locks that door and not the others.

 

[SamBGB]

This is where there is a problem with the Ioniq. The door lock rocker on drivers door does not work when car is switched off, if you use the button on inside door handle, it only locks that door and not the others.

oooohhh I see how strange.

 

[BDG]

oooohhh I see how strange.

Not really, in days of old when you press down the button on the top of the door lining it only locked that door

 

[SamBGB]

Not really, in days of old when you press down the button on the top of the door lining it only locked that door

My tourer had those buttons difference being if you knocked the drivers one down all doors locked.