[GrantL]

Just realized I never got back to this thread with what I paid - was about $540 from my local dealer unfortunately.

When they performed this coolant swap, did they have to remove the entire front bumper cover to access the drain?

 

[Richie Rich]

Mine came in at $418 with tax and $20 shop fee. Western Mass Hyundai. Did it at 35, 800 miles. Sucks, but hopefully it keeps coming down in price for all of us. I don't think they removed the bumper on my car. They must have done the quicker version, but I just want to keep my warranty in tact. Sounds like a created $ cash grab by Hyundai for the dealers to get some service work in. Besides that all I've done is 2x cabin filters. So overall I'm good. I've been Lucky-zero issues except to modify charge door port to close correctly and tailgate rattle. Fixed both myself with help from this forum. I still feel the I5 is an awesome car. I drove my old Rav4 recently, felt like a dinosaur. Loud, took bumps hard, felt huge too the way it drove. in comparison.. I can't go back to ice. Just wish there was a charge station on every corner like gas.

 

[williaty]

Sounds like a created $ cash grab by Hyundai for the dealers to get some service work in.

IMO, and I could be being too forgiving here, I don't think it's a cash grab since they didn't use it on later eGMP cars. From having a little bit of experience with this kind of stuff, this really smells like Hyundai didn't know if the LC coolant was really necessary, didn't know how long its real-world service interval would be, and didn't have time or money to get testing/certification done before they needed to send the design to production. So they made a safe guess that they did need to use LC coolant and it was going to have to be changed frequently. By the time they had to finalize the design for the other eGMP cars, they'd had time/money to finish the testing and realize they didn't need to use the LC coolant after all.

 

[CoSolar]

Just wish there was a charge station on every corner like gas.

Given that many EV's have the option to charge at home, I doubt there will ever be as many public charging stations as there are gas stations.

 

[Fan of EV]

IMO, and I could be being too forgiving here, I don't think it's a cash grab since they didn't use it on later eGMP cars. From having a little bit of experience with this kind of stuff, this really smells like Hyundai didn't know if the LC coolant was really necessary, didn't know how long its real-world service interval would be, and didn't have time or money to get testing/certification done before they needed to send the design to production. So they made a safe guess that they did need to use LC coolant and it was going to have to be changed frequently. By the time they had to finalize the design for the other eGMP cars, they'd had time/money to finish the testing and realize they didn't need to use the LC coolant after all.

This seems logical to me.

But that brings up the question: With the same basic design as the newer EGMP, is there any reason to actually use LC coolant in our older Ioniq 5 cars? I am coming up on 40K miles and will definitely be forking out the cash to use LC coolant just to be safe.

But I am already starting to wonder about the 80K service. On the one hand, if other manufacturers of EV use LC coolant then it could be a lot cheaper in the future and would be no big deal to use it just to be safe. On the other, if we really don't need it then why bother?

Just wish there was a charge station on every corner like gas.

Given that many EV's have the option to charge at home, I doubt there will ever be as many public charging stations as there are gas stations.

Concur.

I imagine that there will be a market for public charging in areas with older apartments for a while. But over time having charging where you live will likely become standard as landlords find that they need to have charging to be competitive in the market or are required by local regulations to provide charging.

But in the long run, I think most public charging will be DCFC and will be along highways targeted to travelers rather than to locals.

 

[stomish]

When they performed this coolant swap, did they have to remove the entire front bumper cover to access the drain?

I believe they did - wasn't back there to oversee them doing the service

 

[RainbowLynx]

Just got.a quote from my local dealer and they wanted over $1500. Called around and got it down to $538 here in Dallas area at a different dealer (Burleson). No dealers I called with IONIQ certification had the service in their price sheets so it seemed quite subjective. They said that the hours required to remove the bumper plus 3 gallons of $60 fluid were driving the costs. The lower price reflects a significant discount on anticipated hours of labor. It's wildly expensive. Hyundai USA will have a problem marketing these cars once word gets out that it requires a $1500 service every 40K miles. At that rate it's cheaper to just drive an IC as you aren't saving anything in gas/maintainence for an IC over charging $/ maintenance for an EV. Except maybe fewer brake jobs? I don't like that slim advantage.

 

[orb2k]

I was quoted $203 + taxes for the 60,000km low conductivity coolant flush and fill service for the Ioniq 5 at my dealership

Where are you located?

 

[DADWAGENS]

I was quoted $1131 in Modesto, CA and $400 in Dublin, CA. Gonna use the savings toward a set of tires lol.

UPDATE: I paid $356 for the LC Coolant Service.

 

[mralex1986]

Where are you located?

It’s fake news. The idiot who no longer works there quoted me the cost of one jug. It’s actually three. Total cost with taxes and labour was somewhere around $800 or $900

 

[mralex1986]

Where are you located?

Sorry I didn’t actually answer your question lol Niagara Region. Grimsby Hyundai is my dealership

 

[Hsiaotsu]

Do all EV's have LC coolants? What do the other manufacturers charge for this service?

 

[JerryP]

Do all EV's have LC coolants? What do the other manufacturers charge for this service?

I can't speak for all EVs, but my Bolt EUV has three coolant systems. They all use the same coolant type. Each one calls for replacement every 150,000 miles or five years, whichever is first. For coolant to use, it says:

Use only ACDelco Premix (50/50 mixture of de-ionized water and DEX-COOL Coolant). See your dealer.

That does not sound like LC coolant to me. But since it's three distinct loops, it's probably not cheap.

 

[mralex1986]

Do all EV's have LC coolants? What do the other manufacturers charge for this service?

The Ioniq 6, Kia EV6, and Genesis GV60 does not have the LC coolant. The upcoming 2025 Ioniq 5 does not have it. Chevy Bolt has (not sure about current models, older ones did), and I believe the Kona does (again, not sure about refreshed model)

Easy way to figure it out is to look at the maintenance schedule for any of these cars. It will be a routine service.

 

[JerryP]

Chevy Bolt has (not sure about current models, older ones did)

The '21 EV manual and the manual for my '22 EUV both call for 150,000 mile intervals.

I checked the 2017 Bolt EV manual online and it also calls for 150,000 mile intervals. Also, if you watch Professor Kelly's videos about the Bolt coolant system, he shows all three loops all using the same coolant. I can find no indication of any Bolt using LC coolant.

And, as you said, the Ioniq 6, EV6, and Genesis also don't use LC.

 

[SalisburySam]

FYI my Tesla M3 has three fluids mentioned in my Owner’s Manual: windshield wiper fluid, battery coolant, and brake fluid. Wiper fluid is user maintained and easily refilled. Regarding the other two fluids, the manual states:

Fluid Replacement Intervals
Battery coolant and brake fluid levels should only be checked by Tesla or a professional automotive repair shop. Specific service information is available in the Service Manual.

• Battery coolant: Your Battery coolant does not need to be replaced for the life of your vehicle under most circumstances.
  Note
  Any damage caused by opening the Battery coolant reservoir is excluded from the warranty.
• Brake fluid: Do not top up your brake fluid.

Interestingly, the vehicle requires the HVAC desiccant bag be replaced every 6 years. This is my year for that…can’t wait to see how it’s done (mobile tech in my driveway hopefully) and at what cost.

 

[grebdlogllib]

Wait the EV6 has a single loop?

I wonder what would warrant such a change, if they figured out that a single loop works best, they would most likely implement it on 2023 models, wouldn't they ?

two things
Hyundai was very cautious when they rushed out the ionic 5 way before the Kia ev6
also Hyundai was already planning ahead for the N series

 

[phil.damecour]

Maybe check your local Asian grocery?

Another option is EV200 from LiquiMoly. Its 47 Euros for 5l plus $10 for shipping. For some reason for "legal" issues they don't sell it in North america.

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[phil.damecour]

Another option is EV200 from LiquiMoly. Its 47 Euros for 5l plus $10 for shipping. For some reason for "legal" issues they don't sell it in North america.

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Liqui Moly Battery Coolant EV200 5L — One Motor Factor

Ready-to-use, specially developed coolant for indirect battery cooling. Based on OAT technology, with a low electrical conductance. Contains flux inhibitors to prevent damage caused by flux residues in the cooling system. Characterized by excellent corrosion protection for aluminum, ferrous and non-

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[EvGuy63]

Just had my 40,000 mile service. They charged me $433.00 for both coolants, it included 1 hour for labor, and 1 gallon of pink coolant and 2 gallons of blue. Way less than what is being posted on this site. I was skeptical for sure but confirmed what they did and mechanic confirmed that he did indeed pump out and change the blue coolant. He said he used a special Hyundai tool so he did not have to remove body parts. He stated the manual indicated to change both fluids so he did. I was not expecting the pink to be changed. The blue coolant was $85.48 a gallon. Bud Clary in Longview Washington.