[Ayesha pass]

My HPEV premium SE has the foot operated parking brake but still has HAC hill start assist so not a problem on inclines,

 

[Cabbyman]

With the greatest of respect, nothing else about the Ioniq is 'kiss-ed' given all the other advanced technology. I NEVER use the PB, whereas I was always using the EPB, on 3 previous automatics that had it. It just made traffic lights so simple, and, believe me, I spend a lot of time at traffic lights!

 

[Ayesha pass]

I’m lucky in only having two traffic lights on my way to college so parking brake goes off at home and back on at work, obviously I don’t do the mileage that you do but my car is intended as a long term means of transport and not a means of income,
So our ownership criteria is totally different My car is plugged into my solar panels for cheap power at home then plugged in at work for really cheap power for coming back,

 

[R.Sgadv]

Too many times I've started to drive away with the darn parking brake on.
I know its a "me" problem, and not the car, but man is it frustrating.

Nothing like pulling out of the driveway already mad at yourself, lol.

 

[xrobertcmx]

Why did Hyundai opt for a foot parking brake in the Ioniq which is reminiscent of the bygone Merc B Class was there a design issue as to why they had to use it over an electronic button parking brake?

It just seems a bit backdated to me given all the technological advancements in this car

Maybe I am wrong and there is good reason for it so discuss

Exactly! I've not had a peddle down there since the 90's. I always forget to release it.

 

[xrobertcmx]

Too many times I've started to drive away with the darn parking brake on.
I know its a "me" problem, and not the car, but man is it frustrating.

Nothing like pulling out of the driveway already mad at yourself, lol.

That is not just a you problem. I've started to back out and the car sits there, and realisation dawns.

 

[IoniqLeon]

I have got used to it now and can release it and put the car in drive in one operation now which you could not do with a handbrake but still think they should have gone with electronic handbrake right across the model range

 

[Ayesha pass]

I have got used to it now and can release it and put the car in drive in one operation now which you could not do with a handbrake but still think they should have gone with electronic handbrake right across the model range

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but as I posted previously my old Renault scenic had to have The electronic parking brake replaced for just short of a £1000 a few years back,
The stupid design meant the servo and ECU including cables are bolted above the rear suspension to take the full force of snow/ ice/ rain and salt,
So the whole unit needed replacing, now look at the Iconiq a simple Foot operated ratchet Inside the car with two cable going to the callipers, a simple elegant design that will last for the lifetime of the car,
As I said previously I’m all in favour of KISS and the Iconiq mechanical parking brake meets
That criteria IMO

 

[DadioGlasgow]

Only problem with the foot operated brake is that it doesn’t disengage the drive, so the car creeps forward even when it has been applied. As a result I have to sit with my foot on the brake when stopped. Our other car cuts the drive when the handbrake is applied, which makes a lot more sense. To put the footbrake on, engage neutral and then have to release the footbrake, engage drive before moving off is idiotic.
I have also had a couple of occasions in the past where I have used the handbrake to create a controlled skid in order to avoid someone who was travelling too fast in snow - I would not like to attempt that with the Ioniq footbrake...

 

[Potts]

I'm a newbie I know and probably should keep my opinions to myself for twelve months at least but, I haven't got use to the thing yet and more often than not drive off with both 'er indoors and me saying at the same time "what the **** is that alarm?"

I had Auto brakes on the Passat and (because I'd read somewhere that you shouldn't let the gearbox take the strain when you put a auto into P), I am in the habit of stopping (brake on), stopping at N, foot off brake before putting into P.
With the Ioniq I am finding it taking me ages to achieve this little ritual - Reverse up the slope - car in N - car rolls forward as footbrake hasn't been applied - swearing ensues - Reverse back into parking space - foot on brake, foot on footbrake take foot of brake and footbrake so motor stops on brake - foot on brake - gear to P - engine off.
As far as I know, I'm not crazy yet, but a few more months of this and I could achieve insanity easily 😵

 

[Ayesha pass]

I can tell you why I think it’s an advantage, One of my previous cars was a Renault scenic with electronic hand brake, the cables/ servo unit and ECU are mounted above the rear axle, a great place for road salt and water to do their worst, needless to say after 3 years it needed replacing at a cost of nearly £1000,
Now my Iconiq is simple a pedal and ratchet mechanism at the front with two cables to the rear brake callipers, what’s not to like ?

 

[Cymro]

With the Ioniq I am finding it taking me ages to achieve this little ritual - Reverse up the slope - car in N - car rolls forward as footbrake hasn't been applied - swearing ensues - Reverse back into parking space - foot on brake, foot on footbrake take foot of brake and footbrake so motor stops on brake - foot on brake - gear to P - engine off.
As far as I know, I'm not crazy yet, but a few more months of this and I could achieve insanity easily 😵

Because it's by now an automatic routine, I had to read the above more than once to follow it. It seems to me that in order to park the car on a slope, with the parking brake doing the work and the gearbox as a secondary line of defence, I simply do this, after reversing up the slope to the parking bay:

1. Stop car, by right foot on footbrake; keep pedal depressed;
2. Simultaneously apply parking brake using left foot; right foot still holding footbrake;
3. Engage Park; engine off; exit.

Job done.

It becomes second nature. I admit to having 20 years' practice because my previous car was a Lexus RX300 which had the same foot-operated parking brake and an auto box.

Cymro

 

[Jono]

Once you get used to the foot pedal it does become second nature. I would add that when I occasionally use my other half's Hyundai i10, without realising it I pull up the handbrake so hard that she is physically unable to release the handbrake herself when she next gets in the car. I wouldn't expect her to have the same problem with a foot brake, although she refuses to drive my ioniq as its too big and she is only conformable driving a small car.

 

[KevinT]

I had Auto brakes on the Passat and (because I'd read somewhere that you shouldn't let the gearbox take the strain when you put a auto into P), I am in the habit of stopping (brake on), stopping at N, foot off brake before putting into P.
With the Ioniq I am finding it taking me ages to achieve this little ritual - Reverse up the slope - car in N - car rolls forward as footbrake hasn't been applied - swearing ensues - Reverse back into parking space - foot on brake, foot on footbrake take foot of brake and footbrake so motor stops on brake - foot on brake - gear to P - engine off.

That seems like an excessive ritual. If I'm stopping on a hill I come to a stop, shift into Park with my foot still on the brake, apply the parking brake with my other foot, then lift off the regular brake with my first foot. The parking brake keeps the car from shifting its full weight onto the transmission's parking pall, there's no need for a neutral rock and roll like you've been doing. It's one extra step to push the foot brake.

To get going again it's foot on the brake, start the car, wait a split second for the car to be ready, shift into Drive (or Reverse), release the parking brake, foot off the brake, and go. If you're using the parking brake all the time (I only use it for hills, and yes, I do forget to release it) then this 'get going' ritual will quickly become as much of a second nature to you as your current parking ritual.

The reason I don't use it all the time is because my last car had a manual transmission and hand brake, and replacing the stretched and worn e-brake cables one at a time at 120k and 130k km (the shop told me the first was a fluke and there was no reason to do the second at the same time) was an expensive pain in the butt. I figure that occasional use on hills only in the Ioniq keeps it from seizing, while avoiding the wear and tear of daily use that would require eventual replacement.

 

[mi20r]

For me it was also strange at the beginning, but I really like it a lot now. I had an electric parking brake on the previous car and really I see no difference now between clicking the knob or putting my foot on the parking brake pedal. I did not use the autohold feature that came with the electric parking brake on my previous car as I hated the fact that i needed to push the accelerator pedal to go forward instead on taking my foot from the brake in stop and go traffic.
It does not consume space inside the middle console (for a level type of parking brake) and it is not controlled by anything electric and/or electronic as anything else in this car is. For me it's a pity that it is not available in the newer versions.
And also you can use it to clean the rear disks from rust and debris from time to time.

It feels really "natural" for me now when I want to exit the car: right foot on the brake, put the gear lever in P, push the button to turn off the car, left foot on the parking brake (if needed), put the right foot on the floor, reach the door handle and open the door, lift the foot from the parking brake and put it outside.

 

[Ayesha pass]

This is the palaver you need to do on a Land Rover Discovery when the electronic hand brake needs work, I will happily stick with my mechanical foot parking brake



How to adjust the parking brake shoes
• Raise and support the vehicle.
• Remove the wheels and tires.
• Using a suitable diagnostic tool, drive the parking brake to the mounting position.
• Align the access hole with the indicators located on the back plate
• Locate the parking brake shoe adjuster.
• Remove the access plug.
• Use a flat blade screwdriver as a lever to displace the parking brake shoes.
NOTE: The movement of the parking brake shoe will be small and may not be felt when levering.
• Failure to displace the parking brake shoes, will result in incorrect clearance when carrying out the
adjustment step.
• Now, using the screwdriver rotate the brake shoe adjuster to extend it until the brake disc is locked
hand tight. However, do not apply excessive force on the brake shoe adjuster. Failure to follow this
instruction may result in damage to the parking brake system.
• The following steps sets the running clearance for the parking brake shoes.
• Using a suitable marker, mark the position of the brake shoe adjuster.
• The parking brake adjuster must then be rotated back EXACTLY one full revolution (10 clicks), until
the mark is again visible.
• The wedge adjuster must be correctly seated to make sure the parking brake cable is correctly
adjusted.
• Loosen the wedge adjuster Allen screw half a turn.
• Tap the brake disc lightly with a soft faced mallet, around the parking brake shoe location within the
brake disc.
• Tighten the wedge adjuster Allen screw to 6 Nm (5 lb.ft).
• Install the access plug.
• Repeat the above procedures for the other side.
• Take the vehicle out of the mounting position by operating the parking brake twice or via the
diagnostic tool.
• It is now vital to carry out the parking brake shoe bedding-in procedure.


The Bedding in procedure
• You need to bed in the EPB shoes either when you have changed the EPB, shoes or you have changed the rear discs.
• With the Engine running, press the brake pedal fully on and off 3 times. On the third press, hold the brake pedal down.
• With the brake pedal still in the down position, pull the EPB switch upwards 4 times and then downwards 3 times. This must be completed within 10 seconds.
• Your dash display will then show ‘Park Brake Bedding Cycle Active’ or something similar. If it hasn’t, then release the brake pedal and try again.
• You need to ensure that you are on a clear piece of road or land as this procedure needs to be completed 10 times.
• Drive at least 19mph and maximum of 29mph and then apply the EPB switch until you stop. You then need to wait for 60 seconds or drive for 1 mile (to allow the brakes to cool down before repeating the process. If you stop the engine or you drive over 30 MPH, the bedding in process will be cancelled. At the end of the 10th time, the bedding in mode will automatically finish.

 

[Cymro]

That's mind-boggling! What on earth were they thinking of when JLR devised that?? !
Cymro

 

[Ayesha pass]

Unfortunately they are not the only ones, Most EPB need software to tell it to stop operating and to retract the pistons just to replace the Pad/shoes,
(KISS ) Keep It Simple Stupid seems to have been forgotten,

 

[Daerth]

I thought it a major inconvenience when researching the car as a lot of reviewers mention this as a downside but honestly? Took me 15mins to get used to it...
Now I really don't mind it at all. Sure, I still occasionally forget to release it having only had the car for 2 months but Im sure that'd be the same going from a manual hand-brake to an electronic one. Just a matter of habits

 

[Potts]

Nearly 6 months ownership now and I'm still NOT a fan of this footbrake malarkey but have got more use to it - at least I'm not driving around with the bleddy thing still on any more!!