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I came to the Ioniq 5 from a VW ID.3. The turning circle in the ID.3 is uncanny and I could get that car anywhere. The Ioniq 5 is a whole different proposition and it’s a chore parking it when out and about, certainly in the UK. I’d fancy my chances with it in the US though where everything car related is about 50% bigger.
 
If Hyundai made an IONIQ 5 shrunk down to the size of the ID.3/Golf with AWD, I’d be first in line.
The size of the IONIQ 5 is approaching too big for me. How I feel when driving it is yet to be determined. I know it will be an adjustment no matter what.
Maybe the IONIQ 2/3/4 will hit that sweet spot, but that won’t be for a while.
 
Correct. A full sized SUV would be something like a Tahoe or Sequoia.
Rivian R1S is the only full sized SUV EV that is currently available (maybe only a dozen or less actually shipped). It is the similar size to the Highlander with a large 3rd row.

The Model Y is pretty small. Modern RAV4 sized. The e-Tron is the biggest "compact" SUV to me.

As others mentioned.. ID.4 has an INSANE turning radius. It's like hatchback. You can turn 90 degrees. It's proof that size doesn't matter because the ID.4 is about the same size as the Model Y (I traded the ID.4 for a Model Y and have photos of them side by side) and RAV4. Both the Y and Ioniq 5 have large turning radii by comparison.
 
If Hyundai made an IONIQ 5 shrunk down to the size of the ID.3/Golf with AWD, I’d be first in line.
The size of the IONIQ 5 is approaching too big for me. How I feel when driving it is yet to be determined. I know it will be an adjustment no matter what.
Maybe the IONIQ 2/3/4 will hit that sweet spot, but that won’t be for a while.
I'd be surprised if the 4 wasn't announced by end of year and on sale early next year give their rollout timeline.
 
I have a Bolt EUV, and honestly can't recommend it. I'll give you the pros and cons anyways though.
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Hope that helps you not regret the Ioniq 5 as much. I can't wait to get a Limited AWD in Lucid Blue after my buyback is completed because of the recall.
That's what I ordered also, Preferred AWD Lucid Blue. Supposedly arrives next week. I have had small cars and a number of minivans (currently a Kia Rio and Pacifica in our family) and I don't find the interior of the Preferred anywhere near as big as the minivan but it doesn't feel cramped nor that you are engulfed which I do feel some of within smaller vehicles. I do however remember the first times I drove my mini-van back in my late 20's it felt strange and kind of open, a little unnerving and slightly too much space. After about a month, I found myself accustomed and feeling the opposite in a standard car - enclosed, things in the way. So I echo the recommendation to wait a bit and see.
 
I'd be surprised if the 4 wasn't announced by end of year and on sale early next year give their rollout timeline.
I would be very surprised. I thought the 6 sedan was coming out next, followed by the full sized 7 maybe in 2023.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if those smaller models aren’t AWD and don’t come to the US.
But, I would happily be wrong in this case!
 
Oh to be retired! In Canada at least the ioniq5 didn't come with the cargo cover unless you got the top trim level. I'm assuming the same thing happened in the US.
SE and SEL do not get the cover. Strange. My 20 year old Prius has one. It is pretty standard for hatchbacks. Other Hyndai models have cargo covers for sale...but they do not fit Ioniq 5. They are about $170. Hoping Ioniq 5 parts accessories carries it soon.
 
If Hyundai made an IONIQ 5 shrunk down to the size of the ID.3/Golf with AWD, I’d be first in line.
The size of the IONIQ 5 is approaching too big for me. How I feel when driving it is yet to be determined. I know it will be an adjustment no matter what.
Maybe the IONIQ 2/3/4 will hit that sweet spot, but that won’t be for a while.
That’s exactly how I felt after sitting in an IONIQ 5 at an auto show. But maybe I’ll fall in love with it when I go for a test drive.
 
Is a Highlander considered a full size SUV now? Thought it was a mid size crossover. Then again what constitutes an "SUV" is not exactly black and white. The term is now thrown around quite loosely.
For some reason I though the new Highlander was the size of the Tahoe. It’s 197” long so it’s not.

R1S is 10” shorter than Tahoe. Still, the R1S is big for an EV and is spacious inside.

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Discussion starter · #52 ·
Just opened this thread and noticed that I was smiling reading it ...
Coming from two Outlander PHEVs, my wife constantly asks me why I switched to such a small car !
It's all about what you're used to, and I'm sure you will learn to appreciate the space in the I5 with time.
( Must show this thread to the wife ;) )
Lol, I guess its all about the history.... for me coming from a volt, I am definitely in the opposite camp!, lol
 
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If it was a car I would say maybe but it’s not. The Ioniq 5 is classified as an SUV so I would say it’s small for an SUV.
You feel its small for an SUV? Goodness, I feel like it's huge for an SUV, lol. My previous SUV's were a Nissan Rogue and a Chevy Trax... I guess those might be more cross overs? I dont know anymore, lol
 
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I totally get what you are saying. I, too came to the Ioniq 5 from much smaller cars-a Gen I Volt, a Gen II Volt and then a Bolt. I get what you are saying about not feeling "a part of" the I-5. It is so large inside and the interior doesn't wrap around you like those other cars, and I think that's exactly the feeling that the designers were going for. If you look at the EV-6, which is the same platform and actually even a little longer, it incorporates the driver into the interior and kinds of wraps around them. The I-5 is more like sitting in your living room. The only thing I can say is that I have gotten used to it a bit more and I like the relaxed feeling, especially on long trips. But I totally understand the feeling you were referring to.
Yes, exactly this. I guess I have always been used to a cockpit type of feel instead of a living room or movie theater feel? I dont know how else to say it, but yes, I think you understand me! lol
 
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The car is exactly the right size... Unless you don't want a crossover SUV.

People really like to compare it against the OG ioniq or maybe an egolf...

This is a crossover SUV, the car category and dimensions cannot be any clearer.

Despite this people are surprised of it's size... And also surprised it's not as efficient as the smaller OG ioniq.
I Dont feel its a crossover SUV though. I feel that is a Kona, or a Corolla Cross, or a Chevy Trax. This feels much larger than those, i'd definitely put this squarely in the SUV category... at least in my opinion. I feel like the "crossover SUV" name gets tossed around between so many cars of different sizes that saying the term makes the car size "clear" is just not possible. For example, on the Hyundai website, a Kona, a Venue, and a Santa Fe.... are all listed as SUV's. Id argue those cars are distinctly different sizes and knowing they are all "Suvs" according to Hyundai (The Maker) doesnt paint a clear picture at all. Are we talking Venue SUV or Palisade SUV or Santa Fe SUV? Very muddy picture, IMO.
 
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Honestly, take a look at the Mach-E Select or Premium Standard Range. The Mach-E handles really well in small spaces and is only a notch smaller than the Ioniq 5. The only reason I traded the Mach-E away was because the range is low 200s (miles). I suspect I would not like the Extended Range with the extra weight.

Anyhow, the Ioniq 5 should hold it's resale value up for the current year. If you wanted a Niro EV, I suspect you could trade it in or selling it with no loss.
You feel the Mach-E turns and parks better than the Ioniq? That is tempting to try out perhaps... still roomy, but maybe not as wide and not as cumbersome to maneuver in urban environments. Seems to be a bit more expensive though at premium trim, but with less range, which is a bummer.
 
You feel the Mach-E turns and parks better than the Ioniq? That is tempting to try out perhaps... still roomy, but maybe not as wide and not as cumbersome to maneuver in urban environments. Seems to be a bit more expensive though at premium trim, but with less range, which is a bummer.
Yes! The Mach-E is a much better urban car for many reasons. In fact, I was looking for a Niro EV or Bolt EUV originally when I returned to work in a downtown office with a narrow 9 story parking garage.

I knew my Model Y (that I owned at the time) would get scratched up due the turning radius and poor safety features (no 360 camera, no cross traffic alerts) so I test drove and bought a Mach-E and that was great in this narrow garage. The turning radius isn't ID.4/ID.3/Niro/Bolt good but the visibility, size, and safety features made maneuvering much easier.

Hands free BlueCruise is also amazing. I've driven 90+ miles without hands on the wheel here in Florida. Also the UI and physicals are better and more usable than Tesla's system. The big screen is very understandable and anybody can immediately step into that car adjust any setting. The EV6 and Ioniq 5 UI are pretty convoluted in comparison.

The negative? Mach-E Premiums and GTs are unobtainable. Forget markups. Try to find one in stock anywhere is worse than Ioniq 5 Limited AWDs.

Oh I currently own a brand new 2022 Model Y (picked up this Wed) and yet I'm praising a Mach-E lol...
 
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Yes! The Mach-E is a much better urban car for many reasons. In fact, I was looking for a Niro EV or Bolt EUV originally when I returned to work in a downtown office with a narrow 9 story parking garage.

I knew my Model Y (that I owned at the time) would get scratched up due the turning radius and poor safety features (no 360 camera, no cross traffic alerts) so I test drove and bought a Mach-E and that was great in this narrow garage. The turning radius isn't ID.4/ID.3/Niro/Bolt good but the visibility, size, and safety features made maneuvering much easier.

Hands free BlueCruise is also amazing. I've driven 90+ miles without hands on the wheel here in Florida. Also the UI and physicals are better and more usable than Tesla's system. The big screen is very understandable and anybody can immediately step into that car adjust any setting. The EV6 and Ioniq 5 UI are pretty convoluted in comparison.

The negative? Mach-E Premiums and GTs are unobtainable. Forget markups. Try to find one in stock anywhere is worse than Ioniq 5 Limited AWDs.

Oh I currently own a brand new 2022 Model Y (picked up this Wed) and yet I'm praising a Mach-E lol...
It sounds like I might like the Mach-E more than the Ioniq5... at least, a lot of what you said sounds like part of the issues I am having with the car. It feels like I am driving a boat, not a car, lol. The MachE sounds more nimble in that regard
 
The follow is a chart I prepared to help me understand the size differences. I currently have a Bolt (not EUV) and a Chrysler Pacficia. I hope all the numbers are correct. If you see an error, please let me know. The weight may vary based on the battery selected and other options.

Vehicle Dimensions ChartWidthLengthHeightWheel BaseWeightTurn Rad.
Tesla Model Y (AWD) Red 5 seat FSD
77.9 in.​
187.0 in.​
64.0 in.​
113.8 in.​
4416 lb.​
19.90 ft​
Chevrolet Bolt Electric w 66 kWh Bat 2022
69.5 in.​
164.0 in.​
62.8 in.​
102.4 in.​
3589 lb.​
17.40 ft​
Chevrolet Bolt EUV 2022
69.7 in.​
169.5 in.​
63.6 in.​
105.3 in.​
3679 lb.​
19.20 ft​
Hyundai Ioniq 5 US has 77.4 kWh Battery AWD
74.4 in.​
182.5 in.​
63.0 in.​
118.1 in.​
4542 lb.​
19.97 ft​
Bolt vs Ioniq 5
4.9 in.​
18.5 in.​
0.4 in.​
15.7 in.​
644 lb.​
2.57 ft​
Bolt vs Model Y
8.4 in.​
23.0 in.​
1.2 in.​
11.4 in.​
827 lb.​
2.50 ft​
Bolt vs Bolt EUV
0.2 in.​
5.5 in.​
0.8 in.​
2.9 in.​
90 lb.​
1.80 ft​
VW ID4 RWD 77kWh per 6/18/20
72.9 in.​
180.5 in.​
63.5 in.​
108.9 in.​
4290 lb.​
16.73 ft​
Mustang Mach-E
74.1 in.​
185.6 in.​
64.0 in.​
117.5 in.​
4920 lb.​
19.05 ft​
Hyundai Ioniq 5 US has 77.4 kWh Battery RWD
74.4 in.​
182.5 in.​
63.2 in.​
118.1 in.​
4233 lb.​
19.97 ft​
Chrysler Pacifica 2021
79.6 in.​
203.6 in.​
69.9 in.​
121.6 in.​
4330 lb.​
19.85 ft​
Cadillac Lyriq 2023
77.8 in.​
196.7 in.​
63.9 in.​
121.8 in.​
5610 lb.​
19.84 ft​
 
The Y is not that wide. Having owned the Mach-E and Y and traded them for each other and took photos of them side by side - they are the same width

The Model Y width number listed above includes the mirrors. 75” without mirrors.

 
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