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It sounds like I might like the Mach-E more than the Ioniq5... at least, a lot of what you said sounds like part of the issues I am having with the car. It feels like I am driving a boat, not a car, lol. The MachE sounds more nimble in that regard
Since you have a family…I think the Ioniq 5 is a better choice. The Mach-E has a firmer suspension like the Y and EV6. Owners complain their kids hate the rear seats because of the bumpiness.

Although I’ve heard the EV6 is the smoothest of the three but I need to get a test drive in. Oh… spoke to local Florida Kia dealers about the EV6. They have multiple VINs arriving in two weeks. Each $15K markup. Yikes.
 
So I did purchase the I5 (SEL) about 2 weeks ago. I test drove it twice, both times I felt the RWD and SEL trim were just perfect. Quick acceleration, quiet interior, handling seemed alright, comfy seats.

After having it for 2 weeks though, I feel like the car is just too big. Like I am in a minivan or something similar with just too much space around me to connect with the car? Not sure how else to describe it. I was driving a Gen 1 Volt before... loved that little car, but its battery started having issues so this was the best EV on the market that was readily available for me. I tried the polestar2 and the tesla and did not like either's ride/handling/suspension. They felt jerky/bouncy... the polestar especially felt like no matter how I touched the accelerator, it was always either too slow or TOO FAST, in an instance.

After having this car for a bit though, I really kinda wish I could have maybe gotten a Bolt EUV or maybe a Kona Electric (Not available in my state). Should I just give it more time? I love the look but not the feel of the car when I am inside. I almost feel like a goldfish in a huge aquarium, if that makes sense.
Part of why I think it's a very curious decision to discontinue the standard Ioniq Electric. The Ioniq 5 is a completely different class of a car and by no means a direct replacement.
 
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Part of why I think it's a very curious decision to discontinue the standard Ioniq Electric. The Ioniq 5 is a completely different class of a car and by no means a direct replacement.
Yea, shame they are going to DC it... I was tempted to actually buy the Ionic Electric first, but they dont sell them in florida.
 
Part of why I think it's a very curious decision to discontinue the standard Ioniq Electric. The Ioniq 5 is a completely different class of a car and by no means a direct replacement.
I think they wanted to avoid the confusion of having two lines of EVs with the same name.

I hope IONIQ 3 will be a replacement for the old Ioniq.
 
I came to the Ioniq 5 from a VW ID.3. The turning circle in the ID.3 is uncanny and I could get that car anywhere. The Ioniq 5 is a whole different proposition and it’s a chore parking it when out and about, certainly in the UK. I’d fancy my chances with it in the US though where everything car related is about 50% bigger.
The IONIQ 5 is bigger than the ID.4... let alone the ID.3. I've test-driven the ID.4 and really liked it, but it was a 6 months wait for the ID.4, while the IONIQ 5 was in stock with the Hyundai dealer (signed on Friday, collected it the following Wednesday...). Having had the IONIQ 5 for six months now, I prefer it to the ID.4 that I test-drove, so quite pleased with how things worked out, even if originally my choice was mainly driven by availability.
 
If the sat nav wasn’t so sadistic, sending me down single track lanes at every opportunity I’d say no, it’s not too big. But man, this car loves itself some narrow country lanes!
 
It's basically the same size as a Mercedes GLC. Actually I think the GLC is a tiny bit longer. If you think that is too big, that's fine.
 
So I did purchase the I5 (SEL) about 2 weeks ago. I test drove it twice, both times I felt the RWD and SEL trim were just perfect. Quick acceleration, quiet interior, handling seemed alright, comfy seats.

After having it for 2 weeks though, I feel like the car is just too big. Like I am in a minivan or something similar with just too much space around me to connect with the car? Not sure how else to describe it. I was driving a Gen 1 Volt before... loved that little car, but its battery started having issues so this was the best EV on the market that was readily available for me. I tried the polestar2 and the tesla and did not like either's ride/handling/suspension. They felt jerky/bouncy... the polestar especially felt like no matter how I touched the accelerator, it was always either too slow or TOO FAST, in an instance.

After having this car for a bit though, I really kinda wish I could have maybe gotten a Bolt EUV or maybe a Kona Electric (Not available in my state). Should I just give it more time? I love the look but not the feel of the car when I am inside. I almost feel like a goldfish in a huge aquarium, if that makes sense.
It is a very roomy car. I love that I am not confined by the door, centre console and arm rest console. Also can stretch a left leg out and right foot isn’t boxed in by an engine. I am big and tall so the room is fantastic and feels so comfortable. Hyundai should consider offering a front bench seat version. It would be like being on a couch/sofa. But probably the best thing is the distance between the wife and I and the kids in the back.
 
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If the sat nav wasn’t so sadistic, sending me down single track lanes at every opportunity I’d say no, it’s not too big. But man, this car loves itself some narrow country lanes!
So it’s not just my region that the nav is horrible. It has ended routes no where near the destination or ending the route with a major obstacle between the car and destination point.
 
So it’s not just my region that the nav is horrible. It has ended routes no where near the destination or ending the route with a major obstacle between the car and destination point.
There was the time I was traveling in an unfamiliar area with a rental car. Time to head home, pulled out the phone, entered the airport as a destination in Waze and followed directions. By the time we thought we should be getting close to the airport, the surroundings were looking very suburban. In the middle of a housing development Waze chirped, "You have reached your destination."

I don't think so.

Did some scrambling, finally got back to the airport, but not quickly enough. We missed our flight.

Lesson: With ANY GPS/nav app, always zoom out the map from your start point to make sure the route is really taking you where you want to go. Giving computers full control in any situation is not a great idea - their brains are really, really small....
 
I remember I needed to get to Sydney international in my old Citroen. The satnav advised me to go to southern end of airport then drive across the runway to get to terminal on the north side. 🤷🏻‍♂️

For those who know Sydney, it wasn’t using the underpass. It directed me to drive down the old North-South runway 😂
 
The traffic layout in London has changed considerably since COVID. We have a green mayor now (no, not a Martian...) who took advantage of the low traffic volume during the lockdowns in 2020 and carried-out extensive roadworks to close-off many residential neighbourhoods to through-traffic in order to improve air quality, as well as converting many car lanes to cycle lanes and to public transport lanes. With the latest maps installed.... my car still thinks London is stuck in 2019. Driving with the satnav in London will either get you up a dead-end alley, or will land you a £60 fine for entering a street that is now closed to motor vehicles. I use only Waze (via Android Auto) in town.
 
The IONIQ 5 is bigger than the ID.4... let alone the ID.3. I've test-driven the ID.4 and really liked it, but it was a 6 months wait for the ID.4, while the IONIQ 5 was in stock with the Hyundai dealer
I'm leaning towards the Ioniq 5 for all those reasons. Big downside right now is the dealers asking for thousands over MSRP. At least VW has their dealers on a tight leash in that department.
 
Yes, it's pretty big - but it's probably the best designed hatchback/crossover out there. My wife finds it too big, she loved the Kia Soul EV we traded in, so it's taking her a bit to get comfy with it. The lack of forward parking sensors on our RWD 77kWh Limited is annoying for this reason.
 
curious if your Waze malfunction was using the phone itself or through Apple CarPlay with the vehicle? I have issues with Waze and Apple CarPlay since recent iOS in my Yukon and Pacifica Hybrid. I have to unplug, setup Waze destination, then plug back in.


There was the time I was traveling in an unfamiliar area with a rental car. Time to head home, pulled out the phone, entered the airport as a destination in Waze and followed directions. By the time we thought we should be getting close to the airport, the surroundings were looking very suburban. In the middle of a housing development Waze chirped, "You have reached your destination."

I don't think so.

Did some scrambling, finally got back to the airport, but not quickly enough. We missed our flight.

Lesson: With ANY GPS/nav app, always zoom out the map from your start point to make sure the route is really taking you where you want to go. Giving computers full control in any situation is not a great idea - their brains are really, really small....
 
Having been with big and large cars, I find the I5 the perfect size in what is called a small “SUV”.

Driven an e36 coupe most of my life (still have it), Dodge Ram truck, Dodge Durango, Audi S5, Cadillac Escalade ESV, child one comes, Volvo XC90, child two comes, GMC Yukon, child three comes, move to new house and installed solar, Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid and I5 now. Wife was anti-minivan until I brought the Pacifica home and she’s in love with it. Haven’t done the three car seat (well one is booster) test in the I5 yet, but I’m certain (based on other online discussions) it will work whenever it is infrequently needed.

I was in a rush last year to buy and EV, Bolt AUV was smaller than I thought, and Leaf (which can fetch for a decent price and not over MSRP) made me dizzy during the test drive, which never has happened to me before. I think it was the way the windshield and split driver-side windows. Didn’t really like ID4, didn’t get to test drive though, and the wait for Q4 etron would be too long, and prob hard to get when it does come

Of course, everyone’s use case and experience is different, but I5 looks small outside and roomy inside is a big win for me. I did borrow my friends Model 3 (hate people calling it M3 for obvious reasons), which was lowered with stiffer springs, and it was a blast to drive. Almost made me buy Model 3 or Y.

Side note: In the end, I5 was one of the largest vehicles small enough to fit under my car lift, which stores my M3.
 
curious if your Waze malfunction was using the phone itself or through Apple CarPlay with the vehicle? I have issues with Waze and Apple CarPlay since recent iOS in my Yukon and Pacifica Hybrid. I have to unplug, setup Waze destination, then plug back in.
It was purely on the phone, and as I recall there was a message at the start that suggested Google was trying some new software cleverness, but otherwise all seemed normal.

So maybe that was an unusual incident, but since then I've been checking before driving and caught things like picking the wrong location (of several choices) for a business, a route that ignores known detours, etc. I've found that extra few seconds is worth it.
 
So I did purchase the I5 (SEL) about 2 weeks ago. I test drove it twice, both times I felt the RWD and SEL trim were just perfect. Quick acceleration, quiet interior, handling seemed alright, comfy seats.

After having it for 2 weeks though, I feel like the car is just too big. Like I am in a minivan or something similar with just too much space around me to connect with the car? Not sure how else to describe it. I was driving a Gen 1 Volt before... loved that little car, but its battery started having issues so this was the best EV on the market that was readily available for me. I tried the polestar2 and the tesla and did not like either's ride/handling/suspension. They felt jerky/bouncy... the polestar especially felt like no matter how I touched the accelerator, it was always either too slow or TOO FAST, in an instance.

After having this car for a bit though, I really kinda wish I could have maybe gotten a Bolt EUV or maybe a Kona Electric (Not available in my state). Should I just give it more time? I love the look but not the feel of the car when I am inside. I almost feel like a goldfish in a huge aquarium, if that makes sense.
I thoroughly agree with the matter of size. I’ve had mine for four months now and have done 2500 Km. My gripes are (1) it is simply too big—one swims around inside—particularly in width, (2) the turning circle is ridiculously big making parking difficult, and finally (3) the steering has a certain sponginess to it that is hard to define but sporty it is definitely not, even in sports mode. A Mercedes EQA perhaps?.
 
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