Just curious about which Level 2 charger other Ioniq 5 owners have picked to install at home. Which one did you choose after all the research and why did you pick it?
What charger do you use?
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ChargePoint HomeFlex level 2, with 23 foot cable, which I had installed for my previous Audi Etron hybrid (24 miles electric). Required install of a new outlet in the garage which cost additional $50. Allowed me to charge up my previous Audi Etron at home and make it to work where I could charge up for commute home. Now retired so we use now about once a week each for Ioniq5 and our Mini SE (100 miles electric). Unless we have a long road trip we charge when utility rates are low weekdays between 8-4. The ChargePoint app can tie to your specific utility to reduce charging times to lowest time to charge.
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Emporia; very easy to install and use! Fairly economical too.
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We did the same, because it can charge at 48a (if hardwired, which we did). Working fine so far. $20 power company rebate hahaha, but there will be a 30% credit (form 8911) coming on our 2023 federal income taxes, up to $1000 (our total install and charger cost was $1,192.00. We are in Washintgon State, so no state income taxes so I don't know about other states. We didn't pay any sales taxes (9%) as WA state allows that for alt fuels.
Wallbox Pulsar Plus, nicely made and reliable. Connects to an app through Bluetooth or Wi-fi. You can schedule start and stop times to suit off-peak times, and somehow the app knows what the off-peak times are in your area.
I only had two slight niggles:
I only had two slight niggles:
- in order to use the plug rest, the rubber cap must be removed from the plug, which was not good in my dusty garage (solved by copying the marsupials and fitting a pouch for the plug to rest in when not in use); and
- I have not found a way to program only one schedule at a time (ie. delayed charge start): it must be set to repeat by day/week/weekend, so this means the app tries to charge the car at regular intervals and notifies you that it has failed to do so (of course it fails because the charger is not switched on or plugged into the car).
My major recommendation is to install a 40 amp charger rather than a 48 amp charger. With a 40 amp charger the car charges at 9600 kw/hr; w/ a 48 amp charger it charges at 11,500. But since I charge overnight a 40 amp charger gets it charged in like 6 1/2 hrs; a 48 amp charges it in like 5 1/2 hrs. That time savings doesn't matter since I'm sleeping, and the 40 amp unit is cheaper to buy, requires a 50 amp circuit which is pretty common vs a 60 amp circuit, and can be a plug in unit vs requiring it be hard wired.
I chose the Wall box unit which I'm very happy with - good luck!
I chose the Wall box unit which I'm very happy with - good luck!
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I use a portable 40 amp charging cable and a NEMA 14-50 outlet. I can use the outlet for other things and travel with the charger. A dedicated charger only does one thing and offers no advantage over portable cable.
I use a JuiceBox 40 amp charger. Had all the features I wanted (easy install, wifi, well rated) and I got it on sale at Costco. The only difference between that one and Amazon was the cord was 5 feet shorter but to save $100 was a good deal. So far, I'm happy with it and no issues.
I also use the CPH50 on a 60A hardwired circuit and charge at 48A. I only got it because my local utility gives $500 rebate on it when professionally installed, and they only accept it or one other charger that was out of stock at the time. I also occasionally use a Tesla Mobile Connector and a TeslaTap mini at 32A through a NEMA 14-50 plug as a secondary option when both my partner and I need to charge at the same time (we both drive EVs).
I wanted a 48A capable charger because of the specific situation my partner and I currently are in. He works overnight, usually leaving for work at 12a or 1a. We only charge during off-peak times, because its literally 1/4 the price to do so, and off-peak time runs from 10p-6a here. His round-trip commute is 90 miles, so that leaves him 2 hours (from 10p to 12a) to recover 90 miles of range. What we found was, using a 32A charger, by the end of his work week, he'd be coming home with 5-10% left in the battery in the winter because there wasn't enough time in that 2 hours to recharge everything he'd used. A 40A would have helped with this, but since we were able to get the $500 rebate for the charger and installation wasn't too expensive in our situation, we opted for the 48A charger. We now have no issue recharging back to 80% every day. For most, a 40A or even 32A charger would be totally fine. Heck, if you don't care about charging off-peak and you have an average length commute, you'd probably be fine with the L1 charger that comes with the car.
Only issue I've had with the CPH50 is that it occasionally changes it's setup info. It's setup as being connected to a 60A circuit, but it will randomly step itself down to it's default 50A circuit, so the charging speed drops on its own from 48A to 40A. It's not throttling, I've checked the connector, the wiring in the EVSE and the connection at the breaker with a thermal camera and they don't get hot at all (like 90F when its 50F in the garage). Its like it forgets its setup and just returns to default. I have to go into the ChargePro app and change it back to 60A circuit. I've had it happen when charging and when it isn't connected to a car at all. It's not an issue with the car either, since it happens on both the Ioniq5 and our Model 3. I don't use any of the smart features on it because I find it easier to just set up the car for off-peak time instead. I do use the app to monitor the charge power and keep track of the monthly usage though.
I wanted a 48A capable charger because of the specific situation my partner and I currently are in. He works overnight, usually leaving for work at 12a or 1a. We only charge during off-peak times, because its literally 1/4 the price to do so, and off-peak time runs from 10p-6a here. His round-trip commute is 90 miles, so that leaves him 2 hours (from 10p to 12a) to recover 90 miles of range. What we found was, using a 32A charger, by the end of his work week, he'd be coming home with 5-10% left in the battery in the winter because there wasn't enough time in that 2 hours to recharge everything he'd used. A 40A would have helped with this, but since we were able to get the $500 rebate for the charger and installation wasn't too expensive in our situation, we opted for the 48A charger. We now have no issue recharging back to 80% every day. For most, a 40A or even 32A charger would be totally fine. Heck, if you don't care about charging off-peak and you have an average length commute, you'd probably be fine with the L1 charger that comes with the car.
Only issue I've had with the CPH50 is that it occasionally changes it's setup info. It's setup as being connected to a 60A circuit, but it will randomly step itself down to it's default 50A circuit, so the charging speed drops on its own from 48A to 40A. It's not throttling, I've checked the connector, the wiring in the EVSE and the connection at the breaker with a thermal camera and they don't get hot at all (like 90F when its 50F in the garage). Its like it forgets its setup and just returns to default. I have to go into the ChargePro app and change it back to 60A circuit. I've had it happen when charging and when it isn't connected to a car at all. It's not an issue with the car either, since it happens on both the Ioniq5 and our Model 3. I don't use any of the smart features on it because I find it easier to just set up the car for off-peak time instead. I do use the app to monitor the charge power and keep track of the monthly usage though.
After checking out the options, the 48A Emporia seemed to have the most reasonable price (<$350) and functionality. It comes wired with a NEMA 14-50 plug and a 24 ft charging cable. Needs to be hardwired to a 60A circuit to use at 48A. Turned out to be cheaper to hardwire it than to install a high-quality 14-50 receptacle. I installed it on an outside wall (it's weatherproof), and it connected to relatively distant WiFi without issue. The minute by minute charging data is cool if you're a data geek. Having been inside the housing to hardwire it, everything looks well-designed for a $350 product. I'm happy with it so far. Also got a 32A Lectron with a NEMA 14-50 plug on sale for <$260 to use at another house that only had a 40A circuit available. I may carry this one on trips.
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I went with Emporia.
- It's a good deal less expensive than the competition.
- WiFi controllable.
- Can be hardwired for 48-Amp functioning. (Ioniq 5 will go up to 48 amps.)
- Tom Moloughney on the "State of Charge" YouTube channel had the Emporia as one of his his top picks. Watch this video:
- Emporia has a product line that's all about home solar energy systems so, if you're interested in a deep dive into taking control of your home energy system, then explore the Emporia product line. It seems to be favored by the solar energy DIY community.
Chargepoint level 2. Was one of only two approved choices in order to qualify for our utilities managed charging program.
Which brand of portable 40 amp do you use? I want portability and ease of use.
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Grizzle is a very sturdy and tough charger that will resist the exterior climates with no issues. Its cable is very thick compared to others and seams to resist a lot of wear. It can be programmed but lacks of some features. ChargePoint home flex is also a good option if your use will be in interior and less agressive use. I have both and both are great chargers.
JuiceBox 40: primarily, local power company offered it on their market place with $250 off. However, the Manufacturer website (Enel X) offered it at a lower base price, plus some MS Bing shopping coupon and later submitted to power company for a $250 rebate check (one requirement by power co was that it had to have wifi which eliminated a Clipper Creek I was looking at).I have used only 3 times thus far and it worked fine. The functionality between the app and website differs. The app gives you a charging graph, the website doesn't. Some settings have to be made on the website since the app doesn't let you do those. The only "hiccup" I ran into: I was trying to charge to 100% for my trip. I quickly edited 100% SOC to be equivalent to 334mi range (the car said so) and started charging. I was dialing in the starting SOC to match the one on the car. However, when the app reached 100% it stopped charging but the car was actually at only 99%. So, I had to initiate a second 2-3min charging session to get the car to 100%. So, I guess the lesson is to set the starting SOC on the app lower than the car's starting SOC.
This is the charging graph in the app. I set the car to "max current" to see if I have a charging stop episode. I did not to my knowledge. The 1st small dip was bc I briefly switched to "reduced" to see the output difference, the 2nd, larger dip down to 5 kW for a few min - I'm not sure what happened there. Nothing what I did. It kinda looks like what I heard the charging TSB would do when port over heating occurs. But it appears to be too brief.
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Same here. No issues.
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