[yticolev]

I suggest driving on 7 year old tires in Ohio is too risky for me. Hydroplaning into a guide rail tends to negate your savings by delaying a new set of tires.

I may not drive as briskly as you and happy to have seldom experienced hydroplaning. I have a lot of discretion over when I drive, and I try hard not to drive at all in inclement weather. Hopefully that alleviates your concern, but it is more out of concern for efficiency. I can do the same errands on dry roads if I wait a day or two and save a bit of money. I'm in no rush.

 

[cannonballrun]

I am getting the newer Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 (non-foam version) installed on Thursday. The reviews are excellent, better wet traction, 25% better treadwear, 50k mile treadwear warranty, 10% better rolling resistance, and supposedly better light snow traction. NTB (owned by Mavis) has them in 245-40-20 size for $274 and a $100 instant rebate ($25 ea tire). That's $55 less expensive each tire than tirerack.

Anyway, I'll do an intial impression after I get them installed.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/pirelli-p-zero-as-3-plus-tire-review/

 

[zooomart]

I am getting the newer Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 (non-foam version) installed on Thursday. The reviews are excellent, better wet traction, 25% better treadwear, 50k mile treadwear warranty, 10% better rolling resistance, and supposedly better light snow traction. NTB (owned by Mavis) has them in 245-40-20 size for $274 and a $100 instant rebate ($25 ea tire). That's $55 less expensive each tire than tirerack.

Anyway, I'll do an intial impression after I get them installed.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/pirelli-p-zero-as-3-plus-tire-review/https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/pirelli-p-zero-as-3-plus-tire-review/

I read the reviews, looks like a great choice. I have run Pirelli on a couple cars with a positive experience. Higher Road noise on concrete highways was the only real negative. This became noticeable at about half tread. Hope this isn’t an issue, seems Pirelli has focused on improving noise performance. I look forward to hearing your impressions

 

[cannonballrun]

I read the reviews, looks like a great choice. I have run Pirelli on a couple cars with a positive experience. Higher Road noise on concrete highways was the only real negative. This became noticeable at about half tread. Hope this isn’t an issue, seems Pirelli has focused on improving noise performance. I look forward to hearing your impressions

re: the noise

I have read a lot of reviews online and the consensus is that the Pirelli AS 3 Plus is quieter than the Michelin AS4. That's sayin a lot. We shall see

 

[michael_1941]

re: the noise

I have read a lot of reviews online and the consensus is that the Pirelli AS 3 Plus is quieter than the Michelin AS4. That's sayin a lot. We shall see

Very curious about these! They were on the top of my list but I didn't go with them in the end as I couldn't get them at a good price locally.

 

[cannonballrun]

My schedule freed up today so I just got home from having the Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 installed and did a quick drive out on the highway and city-ish driving. I'll post tonight or first thing in the morning on my impressions. Hint, it'll be a positive review.

 

[yticolev]

My schedule freed up today so I just got home from having the Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 installed and did a quick drive out on the highway and city-ish driving. I'll post tonight or first thing in the morning on my impressions. Hint, it'll be a positive review.

Unfortunately, most tire changes get good reviews. Fresh rubber is almost always quieter than the worn tires you had on yesterday.

 

[cannonballrun]

Unfortunately, most tire changes get good reviews. Fresh rubber is almost always quieter than the worn tires you had on yesterday.

True, but iI just changed out from tires that only had 8500 miles on them.

 

[Bluei6]

My schedule freed up today so I just got home from having the Pirelli P Zero AS Plus 3 installed and did a quick drive out on the highway and city-ish driving. I'll post tonight or first thing in the morning on my impressions. Hint, it'll be a positive review.

How's it going with these tires? Review?

 

[jfgoldman]

Eh? You are in Canada-land. Do you do winters? It's the LAW here in BC and actually smart for our conditions. That being said, in any ICE I have ever owned I have never gotten more than 3 years out of any tire, winter or AS. I am usually a 25,000 km a year driver. I don't think tire wear is an EV specific problem as many big ICE SUV / Trucks weigh as much or more. It's driving style. EV's have hellish insta-torque. Use it a lot and that will affect tire wear. It's a lot of fun though!!!! A Plug-in has some of the same torque so your present car won't be that much different Further, the gas savings are in the 1000's per year so lots of extra money for extra rubber if you need it.

While I haven't had me I6 long enough (1 year/4500 miles) to comment on its tire wear I do know that over the last two decades of car ownership I have never gotten less than the rated wear on the tires on any of my ICE vehicles (i.e. if the tires were 65,000 mile tires I got at/close to the rated tire wear). On my year of time on this site since I leased my Ionic 6 SE AWD I have yet to see anyone get anywhere close to the rated mileage. E.G. The OEM tire on my car is the Hankook Ventus S2 AS which is the 225/55R18 version and has a wear rating of UTQG of 600AA which according to the information I could find equates to somewhere between 40,000-60,000 miles. And, it only starts out with 8.5/32nds of Tread Depth NEW which means you are likely to get closer the 40K range rather than the 60K range. I believe you should be looking to get new tires when the tread depth is down to 2/32nds of an inch (the old Lincoln Penny trick if there are even many Lincoln Pennys still around). I have yet to see anyone getting more than 30K out of these OEM tires. And, they are expensive at $220/tire. If there is someone that has done better than 30K on their OEM tires (I5/I6/EV6 as those are the only Sedan sized members of the E-GMP family) I would love to hear about it. Another aside, these tires are only Standard load bearing tires (although that means they can bear 1646 lbs/tire which is more than sufficient for the weight of the I6 SE AWD (4500 lbs curb weight). These tires are Ultra High Performance tires, EV rated, and speed rated W (168 mph max speed - which is way higher than the car will allow to drive).

 

[jfgoldman]

LOL, right! The funny thing is, for the Ioniq 6's anyway, the 18" and 20" diameters are the same so you are paying MORE for less rubber with the 20's. Makes sense, no? There is hope though. Another user has had success putting 17's on his Ioniq 6!

And I used to get quality tires for $150 or less as my Sonata's (2008 and later) all had 16 or 17 inch RIMs and did not have low profile tires.

 

[jfgoldman]

I like not buying tires, and bypassing gas stations. My humble HEV routinely goes 700 miles on a tank, and the OEM tires from 2018 are now at 78,000 miles with lots of legal tread left.

You do know that tire manufacturers recommend replacing tires after 5 years due to decomposition of the tire compounds themselves. So while you may still have more than 2/32nds of tread wear left on your car you really should consider buying new ones as you are susceptible to all kinds of tire failure (mainly due to decomposition of the tires in places you may no be able to see - like inside out on the tire - not just the visible portion). So, you continue driving on 7 year old tires at your own risk (and, in case you're wondering I have a MS in Chemistry and spent 4 years teaching at the undergraduate level). There's a saying that goes along with this: "Penny wise and Pound Foolish".

 

[jfgoldman]

I may not drive as briskly as you and happy to have seldom experienced hydroplaning. I have a lot of discretion over when I drive, and I try hard not to drive at all in inclement weather. Hopefully that alleviates your concern, but it is more out of concern for efficiency. I can do the same errands on dry roads if I wait a day or two and save a bit of money. I'm in no rush.

This is similar to the expression that happens to professional athletes: "Father Time is undefeated". I believe we are all just looking to educate you on the risks of driving on old tires in your obsessive drive to squeeze every last mile out of a set of tires that are clearly way past their primes.

 

[cannonballrun]

How's it going with these tires? Review?

They are terrific. I updated the review thread on July 20.

"Update:

7,873 miles and the tread depth has gone from 10/32 to 8/32...not bad. Basically 2/32 per 8k miles. Maintained around 38-39 psi when cold (also adjusted in the winter). Noise level is still super low. Range has been excellent (I think). Highway driving (this summer) 70-80 mph has been close to 4 mi/kwh while maintaining closer to 2.7-2.8 mi/kwh average on the highway over this past winter. Slower highway driving gave me closer to 4.2 mi/kwh.

Anyway, there's the 8k mile update."

https://www.ioniqforum.com/threads/review-pirelli-p-zero-as-plus-3-on-the-2024-ev-ioniq-6-sel-awd.51162/