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Tire Rotation

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#1 ·
Chapter 7 Maintanence in owner's manual said:

Tire Rotation
To equalize tread wear, HYUNDAI recommends that the tires be rotated every 7,500 miles (12,000 km) or sooner if irregular wear develops.
I've visited workshop and they said me that this process is a bit complicated due to tires have rotation direction. It means tire has to be swapped (not wheels). As it might damage pressure sensor and sensors must be reprogrammed at the end they gave me estimate cost around 200-250 euros.

Does anybody done that? Overall completely new tire set might be much cheaper let say in comparison with two times tire rotations.
 
#16 ·
Engineer had forgotten to connect the cable...
And perhaps forgotten to do a test drive(or is that a no no under covid rules)

All sorted drove on fuel home & EV for short distances.
Perhaps Hyundai could stop these problems by fixing the camshaft sensors?

I'll add this to the camshaft position fail threads. (and keep my mouth shut above mine has been fine for 16 months... In future)
 
#15 ·
Well, collected car.
Checked
one sensor had 1-2 short, 1-3 short
2nd sensor had 1-2 open, 1-3 short
Drove to chippy... Mind on other things... 5 miles left on EV so drove until mile from home looked down... Orange light on... Then the engine started... P0430 again?

Dealer... Did engineer clear the fault code? ... Yes he said he did... Can you bring it back?

The plot thickens... Will start a new thread... I'm checking to see if Ryanair have flight yo Vietnam later today... ;) ... Not laughing inside
 
#14 · (Edited)
Update very early this am. 9:00. All done.

Just Hyundai Preston involved Hyundai technical late afternoon car came in. Good shout by John at Just Hyundai.
Hyundai suggested checking wiring. All wiring good. Both inlet(P0340 found) and exhaust (even tho no P0341 found) swapped this morning.
So will inspect the old ones. Told there was no physical damage. Hall effect device. May bring them home... One must be good! New ones marked Kefico Vietnam. Hyundai KEFICO

Going to call Hyundai and ask for 5 year warrenty on the new sensors... Lol... Garage want to give me 1 year only... Hmmm Nov 19 to Mar 21... 15 months... So 1 year isn't long enough.
Warrenty on car runs to July 2022. Enough time to break more.

I am totally Frazzled with other things at the minute. Could do without troubles with a relatively new car.
 
#13 ·
Cars been in since 9:30 at their request, they closed 45 mins ago and I haven't been informed of status. I guess there isn't any update.... ;)
I have checked but it looks like Google hasn't found this dealer ref yet.
 
#11 ·
Well I thought my tyres were going to be rotated at 40k service by my garage, Just Hyundai Preston, as a week earlier the MOT showed the rears had more tread on them. 4.5mm vs 4.0mm. They also recommended reviewing just the front in 3 months.

I knew they hadn't done it as the tyre with the slow puncture was still on the rear. When I asked why they hadn't done it, low and behold all the tyres were at 3mm and they didn't think the difference was enough to bother with the work. They ticked the box with to say they had done it! Done what... thought about it?

Must have been the track day that wore 1-1.5mm from the tyres in less than 100 miles. Sliding around on the rear tyres to burn them up more?

What else have they not done coz they'd thought about it...
Charged me for a Hyundai air filter and used a Blueprint item. (hyundai service always uses hyundai parts?)
Charged for screen wash... Where did they pour that as I filled it before I set off.
They charged for dot3 but did the replace the clutch fluid or just check the level.

This is really about them taking money off me for the MOT ÂŁ45 and 40k service at 28k ÂŁ225 and a month later not wanting to offer much help with yet another camshaft sensor fail EML appearing. Come in in 2 weeks or 3 weeks if you want a curtesy car. OK they also suggested I call the AA, paid for by the service, but make sure they don't clear the fault. P0340. Inlet.
We are rushed off our feet but will try our best... To get around to diagnosing the fault and we'll see where we go from there. Oh...

So Straight to Hyundai customer service... Offered a hire car...

Trust in the dealer... Lost... Over tyre rotation and you can do without your car... We have your money.
 
#9 ·
I rotated my tires today. One thing I noticed is that after taking the lug nuts off I did not have to kick the tires to break them free of the studs. This is the first car I can remember where the tires did not get stuck on the hub/studs.

Last month I changed the tires on my daughter's Toyota. One tire was stuck on so bad I had to beat on it with a sledge hammer. Last year my son got a flat tire on the road but couldn't get the tire off his Mercury. We had to go kick the tar out of it to break it free. No problems with my Ioniq.
 
#8 ·
I did not know there were directional tires until reading this thread. The tires that came on my 2018 US Ioniq phev are not directional, as far as I can tell. There is no directional arrow or indication on the sidewall and the tread does not appear to be directional. So the tire rotation pattern in the manual applies to my tires. However, I can see why there would be some confusion. The manual shows a tire rotation pattern for non-directional tires but also warns not to follow that pattern for directional tires. There are so many variations by model / country, check your particular tires before rotating.
 
#7 ·
Besides the direction arrow there is indeed an "outside" mark on the Michelin tyres... Which after a few beers it is not possible for me to imagine side to side actually working. :)
Of course you could always drive everywhere in reverse. ;)

[As per the information paragraph of your drawing.]
 
#6 ·
I'm at 65,000 km and have only swapped front to back and visa versa. It seems to work well. I believe that the left to right swapping is a hold over from before modern radial tyres became standard and when people still had a "proper" spare that they included in the rotation. Now that was complicated.
 
#4 ·
30 years ago, a left right movement was standard in addition to front rear movement in turn, which did mean dismounting the tires and remounting them every second rotation to preserve tire direction. Forty years ago, no one bothered with tire direction except for the then radical Michelin radials. Now US tire stores refuse to do that, perhaps because of the labor cost, but swear that it is for technical reasons. Doesn't make sense to me, but I no longer insist.

When I bought my car, I went to my tire store and bought road hazard warranty and lifetime rotation (presumably only front to back). Inexpensive at about $70. When tread depth gets too low, they will stop rotating them (or even adjusting air pressure).
 
#2 · (Edited)
Tyre rotation simply means taking the front wheel (including tyre) and swapping it with the rear wheel on the same side of the car. You then have to do the same on the other side.

The TPMS tyre monitoring system will quickly relearn where the wheels have moved.

I did the above myself with a spare wheel and a jack at no cost. In the UK I had never done this before in 40 years.
Yes, if you were to PAY a garage to do this twice, it may cost you money you could put towards buying a new tyre.

Just spotted the garage cost for swapping tyres of and back on... Ouch!!! Looks like they misunderstood what you wanted. That should cost you 50€... If they charge you at all. It is part of the 10k 20k 30k etc services here.
I will be paying 250€ for my 4x new tyres and maybe €50 to fit all 4 tyres.

You will, eventually, need to buy all 4 tyres at the same time too. This may be a good thing as you may wish to move away from the original Michelin Energy Savers for say Dunlop Bluresponse Sport, which some say are quieter.

[The tyres are directional... See arrow ====> on the tyre near the wheel rim... So you should not be swapping wheels from one side to the other.
A set of 4 tyres usually consists of 2 x left hand side and 2 x right hand side tyres.
The front tyres tend to wear/feather unevenly on the edges due to steering forces. This uneven wear will be removed on the rear.]

Hope this helps.
 
#3 ·
Tyre rotation simply means taking the front wheel (including tyre) and swapping it with the rear wheel on the same side of the car. You then have to do the same on the other side.
I know that everything is easy if you just swap front and rear wheels on the same side. But according to owner's manual you have to swap left-right wheels across. Exactly this thing makes it more complicated as due to rotation direction you have to swap tires.
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