I have not an I5 yet.

Let me ask you a question.

Can you trust that Blue Link will be always available when you want it? I don't.

I bought a charger with it's own app, should be here in a week or so.

 

I have this charger at home: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077D5C86M

It is dumb, relatively inexpensive, supports up to 40A, plugs into any 240V outlet and I can take it on the road if needed.

 

A dumb charger should be good enough. The car has settings that will let you limit the charging times.

However if you use it without limits, it will start charging on its own sometimes. I stopped the charge using blue link, before it hit it's set limit of 80% but it started on its own a few hours later finishing to 80%. I didn't set any time limits, though.

 

Like most have said, I just told the car to charge between midnight and 6 and use the include 110 most days if I don't drive close to 30 miles.

 

Preference, flexibility and personal choice will make your decision.

I ended up with a smart charger at home as my old PHEV had a pretty dumb schedule built in. My utility has a fairly complicated "time of use" (TOU) schedule for getting the cheapest electricity with the weekend schedule being different from the weekday schedule. On the PHEV I wanted to charge at every cheap opportunity as it had limited EV range. The Ioniq 5 has enough range that you may not need that type of scheduling flexibility.

For me the second issue is for travel: When away from home my charging schedule is different than at home. For example at home I am fine with starting to charge at midnight but if I end up at a hotel that has a charger (or a campsite where I can use my lower power dumb portable Level1/Level 2 EVSE) I usually want to start charging immediately on check-in and not wait until midnight. By having my home charger take care of the scheduling I have nothing special, extra or different to do in the car to override a programmed schedule when I arrive at a charger when away from home. In either case, I simply plug the car in and it will start charging as appropriate. But if you don’t do road trips very often, or at least road trips where you will be plugging into Level 2 EVSEs, then you may not care about this either.

Edit: Other part of the question was about features a smart EVSE might have that the car doesn’t: If you want to track your vehicle expenses you probably have been tracking your gas costs. For home charging a smart EVSE can give you reports about how many kWh you put in the car and how much that cost based on your utility’s tariffs. A dumb home EVSE does not track that for you and the car doesn’t really track how much you charge at home vs at the free Level 2 in the parking lot at Target where you shop so it can’t tell you that either.

If a fixed fairly simple charging schedule works for you, if you don’t mind manually overriding it on the occasions you travel, and if you are are not compulsive about tracking vehicle expenses then a cheaper dumb Level 2 EVSE is probably the correct choice for you.

 

For me the second issue is for travel: When away from home my charging schedule is different than at home. For example at home I am fine with starting to charge at midnight but if I end up at a hotel that has a charger (or a campsite where I can use my lower power dumb portable Level1/Level 2 EVSE) I usually want to start charging immediately on check-in and not wait until midnight.

The Ioniq 5 scheduled charging allows for the schedule to only be applied at home.

 

I got a refurbished grizzl-e. Built like a tank. Dip switched inside the unit to set the max charging current. Instructions are well written and easy to use.
In my case I don't have wifi that reaches to the charger. And will that smart charger app still be working on your phone 2 years from now? I have an inherent distrust of phone apps as they tend to not work over time if the company goes away or decides it moves onto the next best thing and leaves you hanging.

 

At least in CT, the local utility only provides rebates/ incentives for Smart chargers, so that is something to keep in mind. I still went with a Grizzl-e as well.

 

I don't know if it's been implemented in the smart chargers yet - but the smartgrid will be communicating with the smart chargers to do what the utility company wants the charger to do. Like only charge at off peak hours. If you, as the owner, don't have the ability to override this, you may be left with a battery that is not charged enough for your needs.

 

Agreed. They do that with my Nest and give me rebates as well. It has worked out, for the most part. Regarding the charger that is another reason I went with a non-smart version.

 

The smartest charger is a dumb one. Spending $1000 or more on something fancy adds up quite alot of $$ per mile driven for quite a long time.

Here it's not uncommon to get a bill of like $2k for a normal 11kW charger install. Divide that by say three years and the charger cost is sort of equal to the electricity cost per driven distance.

 

If you can get away with the level 1 that comes with the car that's definitely the smartest way. Obviously that doesn't work for everyone.

 

Homes here in the US all have 240V, but it is two phases of each ~110/120V. One phase is wired within the house, but dryers etc. use both phases. When I got my solar system and a breaker box update from 100Amp to 200 Amps, I had my installer put a Nema14-50 outlet into my garage.

Interestingly the charger that comes with the Ioniq 5 works with 240V so it doubles the charging speed 2.7kW. works great for me.

 

Did you use an adapter to be able to plug into 240?
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Esprit - What are the input voltage specs printed on your Level1 charger? The one that came with my car says 120VAC. But it could be the same charger used in 230-240 volt markets with a different label and power cord. After all the "charger" is basically just a smart switch. The charger is in the car.

 

More about stuff nobody asked about haha!! Possibly helpful for someone. Most people dont know the actual charger is in the car and you only provide AC voltage via the fance wallbox.

The wallbox is only a glorified "Nema outlet" with a relay for safety and a small controll lead to the car that negitioates the available charging current.

So the car requests maybe 7kW and the wallbox says you can only have 4kW, then the car nods and adjusts to 4kW.

The smarter the wallbox the more fancy you can steer the control signal. For example by time tariff or load blaancing. Still only a very simple control signal you send to the car - no magic.

This is the circuit that sends the correct singal, $50. The rest of the $2k is in my eyes wasted money LOL. This little board can be controlled via a push button or via a potentiometer - or arduino.

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EVSE Kit For EV Charging Station/Cable - We have developed a board based on PIC microcontroller which is able to generate 1kHz PWM signal, detect the vehicle and control the relay. It is also possible to adjust PWM width for current regulation. The board is small enough to be installed directly into

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As for me I got this type of wallbox, at the time it was $350. This bought me the little controller board, a relay for safety a current meter, a little color display, the charge cable with connector and a casing. It's a solid $350 unit worth the money. I would never imagine paying the $2k the local companies charger for a very similar product(in some cases the exact same unit even)

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Interesting. Did not check into the DIY approach but it looks like there's lost of resources for those who want to make your own.

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