Just my opinion but the I5 is state of the art and all new. Volvo is same body as 5 years ago and boring as ****. They will both have crappy resale value because when you got ready to sell, new cars will be getting 600 miles and cost less than they do now

 

I frankly don't think the XC40 Recharge has a more luxurious interior or exterior.

 

I actually think xcharge looks rly good. The I5 is a modern twist to a hatch which is very much dig. Between the two, I don’t think you can go wrong. 25 miles is NOTHING if you plan to drive conservatively.

One major factor you did not include though if frrr charging for i5 for two years? If you travel that makes a different and it can add up.

 

I would also recommend reading through the XC40 Recharge forum. When I read through it there seemed to be countless technical issues and complaints (as with any car) but it’s good to know what you might expect. And, apparently Volvo has been promising to add Apple CarPlay which has not happened.

 

Thanks for the reply; actually, I posted the exact same question there...no replies yet.

Hmmm, I just looked over there and my post is gone...perhaps its against some rules?

 

I can definitely relate. Before I bought my IONIQ 5 Limited AWD, I had a C40 Recharge 'reserved' with my local Volvo dealer-- meaning they took a deposit and planned to sell me one they knew was arriving late April. I was so torn between the two, but ultimately, I have no regrets about going with the IONIQ 5. For me the final decision feature was the interior styling-- I test drove both back-to-back on two separate occasions, and both times, I was won over by the lack of transmission tunnel in the IONIQ 5 and the dash layout. In the C40, it looked like every other ICE car I've owned, just sharper and more modern; in the IONIQ 5, though, I felt like I was in a futuristic car. And in the end, that was one of the things I wanted from my first electric car. But that was my experience, and what I wanted. If the XC40 Recharge brings you more joy when you're in it and driving it than the IONIQ 5, go for the XC40!

 

Both cars look good. If your dealers have demo cars, drive both of them before deciding. And why might you not get the tax credit for the IONIQ 5? Hyundai, Kia, and Volvo won't reach the 200,000 federal limit for a long, long time. Or maybe you plan to lease the IONIQ 5?

 

Thanks for the reply; even finding a demo car to drive in my area has turned out to be a challenge. Regarding the tax credit, from the numbers I have seen regarding the Hyundai Kona they are well into the 100,000s.

 

There are a couple of features that come to my mind for those 2 vehicles that I would want:

1. I would consider the one with the higher ground clearance to be an advantage;

2. To me, Volvo and Mercedes make the most comfortable seats;

3. I want a stereo where I don't feel that I have to upgrade, if they're are both eqal, then it's a non-issue (I'm expecting not to be happy withthe the I5 system from what I've read;

4. A clear vision out of the back;

5. The best reliability of the 2.

Both vehicles have sufficient power to suit our needs.

 

If you can wait just wait for the Genesis GV60/70 or the Lexus RZ450e which will be announced in 10 days (Lexus).

 

Those are the other 2 vehicles I've been considering, and will look more closely when the trims and packages are posted.

 

My folks and I were looking for EVs.

We spent a weekend going over options. We ruled out the XC40 pretty early as it didn't display range (just charge percentage), didn't have CarPlay, had less range, etc.

VW ID.4's were our lead choice until the whole delay in shipping and postponement of the Q4 and ID.4 to address a manufacturing defect and dealer markups.

I ended up with an IONIQ5, folks with a Polestar2. Nothing really drives like the IONIQ5 for the money or is as nice really, which is why we see reviewer after reviewer calling it the first real model y competitor (I've yet to see anyone say that seriously about the XC40, C40, etc).

 

Living in Volvo land grown up with Volvos, still I would never touch the XC40, Polestar2 or C40. They are old cars not up to the standards.

I know some on the forum fancied the XC40 because of paint color and rims. Well, if it's down to only that then choose whatever you like but the Volvo are way behind. It's something I would have imagined would do back in 2014 along with the Kona EV sort of. Ioniq 5, (even though it's not for me either), is really next level.

 

I have ordered a Volvo C40 Twin. When I receive it, I will have driven my classic 28kWh Ioniq for 6 years and some 125 000 kms.

 

And the Ioniq 28 and C40 are built in a very similar way. They do travel A to B 1000km in the same time give or take minutes. Uses 2times+ the energy though....

 

I tried both and ordered the Ioniq 5. The Volvo felt much more like a legacy car. Hyundai interior much nicer and more advanced technically (eg. multiple settings for regeneration instead of one). I suspect that the Hyundai will have a higher resale value over the medium term as it's going to stay modern longer.

 

In had the Ioniq 5 for a week and the XC40 Recharge for a week right after.

Personally for me, there is no competition. The XC40 felt so cheap on the inside, so much hard plastic and the interior looks so plain. The I5 felt like a luxury car (I drove the new Mercedes S580 a week later and the I5 felt like it was competing with the S580).

The XC40 is a bit more fun to drive and has a rear wiper, that's about it.

On a full charge, I got 440km on the I5 and 340 on the XC. Also, the price difference is significant, with the XC coming in at $72k CAD and I5 at $62k CAD, and I5 also qualifies for $8k off where I live, not the case for the XC.

The XC40 is a fine car (a really expensive fine car) on it's own, the only problem is, the Ioniq 5 exists.

Just my 2 kW...

 

I would argue that the XC40 has some nicer interior color options, but the infotainment system is so old, and the tech is just not up to par with today's new standards by Hyundai/Kia or even VW/Skoda/Audi. Mercedes and BMW are still behind, but Volvo lags even more.
As stated by all above, the IONIQ 5 is a clear winner.

 

First off, thanks to all for the insights and perspectives. I suppose the good news is that my purchasing time line is most probably in the fall of this year, so there is time to investigate EVs that have yet to arrive, e.g., Ariya, RZ450e and GV60. The bad is there will be more choices...lol.

From an advantage/disadvantage perspective, I personally would favor a nice comfortable, quiet ride more than how functional the infotainment system is. Another is I much prefer a retractable shade over the sun roof (if there is one).

Again, thanks very much for you thoughts.

 

If you haven't ordered already, good luck finding any car this year still, made to your likings. The automotive market is still having huge chip shortages and material shortage due to the war in Ukraine, so even an I5 may be hard to find by then. I wouldn't wait. Also, those new models will have issues and those of the 2023 I5 will be in the 2nd model year so it is bound to be a more consistent package.
And the I5 is VERY comfortable, not less than the XC40.

 

I initially put a deposit down for an XC40 Recharge in Canada. When finally available and I took a test drive, I couldn't help thinking "that's it?" as I drove the top of the line model. I couldn't see paying over $70,000 so I got my money back and left rather discouraged as was hoping for more "wow" than I saw.
Fast forward a few months to when I took my 2010 Hyundai Santa Fe into the dealer for service. And there, charging, was an Ioniq 5, which on-line looked smallish and weird. But in person: WOW. I managed to get a test drive that day and from that moment was HOOKED. So much roomier. Adjustable console. Great features. Drove like a charm.
Put in my deposit next day (01 Feb 2022). Am patiently waiting for my MY2023 (and my Santa Fe keeps plugging along as has done for 11 years no major problems at 230,000 kms)...

 

I initially put a deposit down for an XC40 Recharge in Canada. When finally available and I took a test drive, I couldn't help thinking "that's it?" as I drove the top of the line model. I couldn't see paying over $70,000 so I got my money back and left rather discouraged as was hoping for more "wow" than I saw.
Fast forward a few months to when I took my 2010 Hyundai Santa Fe into the dealer for service. And there, charging, was an Ioniq 5, which on-line looked smallish and weird. But in person: WOW. I managed to get a test drive that day and from that moment was HOOKED. So much roomier. Adjustable console. Great features. Drove like a charm.
Put in my deposit next day (01 Feb 2022). Am patiently waiting for my MY2023 (and my Santa Fe keeps plugging along as has done for 11 years no major problems at 230,000 kms)...

That's exactly how I felt, it felt like a last generation Ford Escape for over $70k and no EV incentives.

 

Has anyone compared the 2 warranty plans? I'm thinking the Hyundai has about a 10yr 100k mile power train warranty and the big battery about 8yr 100k miles... double check this, because I didn't. What is the Volvo warranty like? I have a 28kwh Ioniq and it's been 'ROCK SOLID' for 45k miles.... all I've had to do is rotate the tires, and top off the coolant a couple of times. I did take it to the dealer to have the reduction gear fluid checked... but I wonder if they really did it.

 

I did a test drive in the Volvo. Man, the ride quality was underwhelming. If ride quality is important, not even close IMHO.

 

Ioniq 5 personally crushes it with style, you may not even be able to buy an Ioniq 5, In canada they have started retuirning deposits to some, they have over sold and from my understanding they are making 75K of the Ioniq 5 and 75K EV6 in total. In my opinion range is key and as far as style there is no comparison but that's my opinion. Why pay more for less, if you are serious, you may want to get a deposit down asap because no one knows how long it may take to get one

 

I've spent some time driving both these cars and for me, the XC40 ride quality is far preferable. I like cars, not trucks, and the tighter suspension on the XC40 suited me a lot better. The Ioniq5 suspension is too soft in corners and still manages to be more uncomfortable over speed bumps.

Other pros for the XC40 for me: I find the seats more comfortable, the infotainment much easier to use, and the ride quieter. Those are all very subjective though. Also the XC40 has an opening sunroof, roof racks, and you can drop the rear seats from the trunk. The Ioniq might have multiple regen settings but none of them are strong enough and one-pedal driving turns off every time you re-engage Drive.

Something people rarely mention about the Ioniq is that is has the best 360/reversing camera display I've seen on a car. The Volvo's is not as bright or as big.

Honestly they are both amazing cars. I prefer to drive the XC40 but given its range issues it would only take a good firmware update to tip the balance to the Ioniq.

Plus the Ioniq looks sooooo good. Someone followed me home the other day just to ask what it was.

 

I've spent some time driving both these cars and for me, the XC40 ride quality is far preferable. I like cars, not trucks, and the tighter suspension on the XC40 suited me a lot better. The Ioniq5 suspension is too soft in corners and still manages to be more uncomfortable over speed bumps.

Other pros for the XC40 for me: I find the seats more comfortable, the infotainment much easier to use, and the ride quieter. Those are all very subjective though. Also the XC40 has an opening sunroof, roof racks, and you can drop the rear seats from the trunk. The Ioniq might have multiple regen settings but none of them are strong enough and one-pedal driving turns off every time you re-engage Drive.

Something people rarely mention about the Ioniq is that is has the best 360/reversing camera display I've seen on a car. The Volvo's is not as bright or as big.

Honestly they are both amazing cars. I prefer to drive the XC40 but given its range issues it would only take a good firmware update to tip the balance to the Ioniq.

Plus the Ioniq looks sooooo good. Someone followed me home the other day just to ask what it was.

Have you modifed your regen settings to max if you feel not strong enough, I solely now drive in auto eco mode and use left paddle shifter for all braking , rare I use friction, I have learned to time it quite well now

 

Test drove both. Personally whilst I enjoyed the ride height, fit and finish, and particularly the centralized use of Google for tech, I found the sheer weight of the XC40 to be a bit off putting. Not to mention the sheer difference in target mileage and the fact it costs a great deal more.