I ordered the Grizzle e classic 40 amp charger due to excellent reviews.

 

I ordered the Grizzle e classic 40 amp charger due to excellent reviews

 

I am curious why your limiting yourself a 40 amp EVSE when the I5 onboard charger can accept around 46 amps.

 

I was planning to purchase a Juicebox 40 for my garage

 

I recently purchased the grizzl-e classic as well. It's the only sensible priced 40 amp evse on the market. Considering it's basically just a signal generator and a contactor, the prices on the market are very inflated.

 

I agree, I think the best deal is an EVSE that reasonably priced and is UL certified or has another respected North American certification. Keeping in mind CEL certification is just a Chinese manufacturer self certification(i.e. meaningless).

I think part of the pricing mojo is based on marketing consistently referencing an EVSE as "charger". They are not, they are just safety interfaces with relay/contactors that engage your home's power when the the EVSE verifies there is a valid ground and the gets the OK from the car's MCU to proceed. The actual charger that rectifies AC to DC is already in the EV.

 

I'd recommend going over to the State of Charge channel, Tom Moloughney does excellent EVSE reviews.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdX0BJNon1c6GfOdeS3pyDw

Don't forget to also take a look at:

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Is having one of these chargers necessary? What if I get an electrician to put in a regular 240V outlet in my garage, like for a dryer or oven?

I'm new to the EV space and want to learn as much as possible before my car arrives. I'm also trying to keep costs down as much as possible.

 

Is having one of these chargers necessary? What if I get an electrician to put in a regular 240V outlet in my garage, like for a dryer or oven?

I'm new to the EV space and want to learn as much as possible before my car arrives. I'm also trying to keep costs down as much as possible.

I think you will get your info there:

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Another Grizzle-E here and I’ll have it set up to charge at 40amps.

 

Grizzle-E here as well and I have a 40 Amp circuit and the charger set to 32 Amp. This is 80 % of the circuit's max current and as recommended by the electrician. I've felt the circuit wiring and it's just a bit warm after 7 hours of charging. Not much of a test I know but I feel better knowing there is nothing unexpected going on.

 

Just out of curiosity, say if I decide to switch to Tesla in the future, can I continue to use the same charger that works with the Ioniq 5?

 

Yes you can, Tesla provides a J1772 adapter but see my above post about getting at least a 48 amp EVSE on 60 amp circuit. Most new Teslas start at max of 48 amp AC capacity and go up to 80 amps. This will be the trend with large capacity batteries in vehicles like F150, Rivian, Cyber truck , Model S etc

 

I guess I just wanted to point out to the "new to EV" folks that unless your electrical service can't handle a 40 amp vs 60 amp 240 circuit you should consider an EVSE that can handle a minimum of 48 amps to get max AC charging capacity from the Ioniq 5 or any other newer EV like ID 4, Mach E, Model 3,Y that come with higher capacity single phase onboard AC chargers that can charge as much as 11kWh or faster. The price difference to install higher ampacity wire, breakers is relatively small upfront but considerably more if your electrician is retrofitting.

I currently run a Morec 32 amp EVSE for my Kona, its a relatively cheap unremarkable Chinese unit that I bought off amazon 2 years ago. Its not appropriately NA certified but its been fine otherwise. I will now need the ability to charge 2 EVs once my I5 arrive. I have purchased two 48 amp hardwired Enelx Juicebox EVSEs that most importantly are capable of load sharing on a single 60 amp circuit. When both cars are plugged in each will get 24 amps until one is finished and then the full 48 amp capacity is available to remainder charging vehicle. The other perk is the EVSE will be able generate accurate charge cost reports so I can better track my business tax deductible expenses.

Fortunately I had foresight to over compensate with larger wiring when I installed my EVSE a couple of years ago(I think it cost me a whopping $75 more than the minimum spec higher gauge wire for a 40 amp circuit) and it can now easily accommodate a 60 amp circuit. It just was a PITA to pull the thicker gauge wire through conduit as I recall. I will just need to upgrade the breaker in main panel from 40 to 60 amps(around an extra $50-60) before I commission the new EVSEs

 

How can I tell if my home can handle 60A?

My house was built just a year ago in a new subdivision, if that helps.

 

You likely have the overall capacity, but may need a new circuit itself. I have a one year old house with detached garage with just a few 120v plugs in the garage. Just for fun while an electrician was out for another issue, they quoted me a whopping $5-6K to run a new line through the existing conduit to the garage, install a 60A subpanel in the garage and install a 30A plug, permit, and inspection. Needless to say I'll a) be seeing how I do with 110v once I get my Ioniq 5 (normal daily driving is 15 miles, 30 tops for a day of local errands) and b) getting some more quotes because that seems ridiculously high.

 

It's definitely a 200A and my circuit breaker panel is located in the garage close to where the car is parked.

So to get the max kW, I need to hardwire the charger directly?

I'm no electrician so either way, I'll have to hire someone to work on it.

 

Your code will likely dictate anything above a 40 amp EVSE will require hardwire. That is not a bad thing as it generally provides a more durable and reliable electrical connection. It will also be a little cheaper as you won't need to buy/wire a separate receptacle.

 

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Just had the Grizzl-E Classic installed this morning, works perfect but the nozzle holster is a little chintzy and the cable is not the last word in pliability (at least not when it's -20 degrees C).

 

May I know how much for it? thanks

 

Got it installed today and I highly recommend you shop around quotes from electricians. My first wanted $2k and the second was $850.

 

Grizzl-e 40 amp for me too.

 

I have this one:

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16 amp, but I am on a three phase supply, so 400V.

 

I like a lot this design of Wallbox.

Here it's rare to have home with 3 phases, 3 phases is more used for commercial or higher...

 

Grizzl-e 40 amp for me as well. You can manage the charging from the bluelink app, so don't really need a smart charger IMO.

 

You can go even one up. You can use the integration with home assistant, and if you do not have a fixed energy price, you can make it charge when the electricity is very cheap automatically

 

I’m just using a Tesla travel charger with the multi plug adapter and a Tesla tap that way when I travel to rentals I just put it in the frunk and can use whatever outlet is in the garage for quicker charging on vacation

 

Can you show a pic of this setup connected to the Ioniq 5?

 

I’d be interested if anybody else has tried a V3 Tesla Wall Charger? I have one, configured within the wifi settings to charge “all cars”, it charges my wife’s Volvo PHEV no worries, but it won’t charge the Ioniq 5…just get “failed to charge” every time. Anybody else got this working?

 

what are you using to bridge the charger to the ioniq plug? Tesla tap? And what amperage?

 

Hmmm. No bridge at all. Maybe that’s the problem? Just plugging it in.

 

I think the confusion here is that Tesla has a different charging port in the US.
In the EU (possibly in AUS) it is just a normal Type 2 port.

 

thank you! I had no idea, makes sense now

 

Right yes that makes sense. Here in Australia the plug is normal type 2 both on the Ioniq as well as the Tesla charger. I’ve now tried a couple more tesla destination chargers known to work on other cars and they don’t work either. Might try a Zappi