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Trading Ioniq 5 in for Model Y due to Charging Infrastructure

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Decided to trade my my 2022 Ioniq 5 SE AWD in for a Tesla model Y LR. I really feel bad about trading it in since the Ioniq 5 has been a great car and I think is a better car than the Model Y. However, after 1 year and 31,000 miles, the CCS level 3 charging infrastructure has become too unreliable. I have almost been stranded a couple of times due to broken chargers, and have had one Electrify America charger not release the charger plug when the station when dead (not a pleasant experience 1000 miles away from home). I never know when I pull up if a charger is going to work. Many times the charger would start and work great for a few minutes than error out. By far the most numerous issues are with Electrify America stations. What is most frustrating is that Plugshare not longer accurately rates station that are not working.

I hope that Hyundai and other EV companies pool there resources to resolve the charging issues.
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Charging really depends on the areas you frequently travel. In New England/ mid Atlantic I rarely have an issue find a charger while on a road trip. I have had one instance of falling back on the back up’s back up— but that was bound to happen at some point. I’ll be honest I don’t use PS as much as I used to . I don’t often have totally failed sessions, and I try to remember but life happens
Its funny though there is a saying thats appropriate here.. "this isnt the airport, you dont have to announce your departure"
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It is still far from 330 miles for Y model.... 270 or less is what Y is seeing in real world and 290-300 Model 3 on full charge.
Regarding BMW.... they have designed propulsion units for interstate speeds efficiency and only thing is holding them back on I4 is no ground up chassis design for EV.
In my 2023 M3 L/R in town I get about the EPA numbers. On the hwy, it depends on my driving speed. If I keep it to 70 mph I get 80-85% of EPA rated miles (358). It drops a lot above 75 mph. My mi/kWh in my AWD Ionic 5 was about 3.2-3.5. My Tesla is 4. Clearly more efficient. Both excelkent cars.
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Decided to trade my my 2022 Ioniq 5 SE AWD in for a Tesla model Y LR. I really feel bad about trading it in since the Ioniq 5 has been a great car and I think is a better car than the Model Y. However, after 1 year and 31,000 miles, the CCS level 3 charging infrastructure has become too unreliable. I have almost been stranded a couple of times due to broken chargers, and have had one Electrify America charger not release the charger plug when the station when dead (not a pleasant experience 1000 miles away from home). I never know when I pull up if a charger is going to work. Many times the charger would start and work great for a few minutes than error out. By far the most numerous issues are with Electrify America stations. What is most frustrating is that Plugshare not longer accurately rates station that are not working.

I hope that Hyundai and other EV companies pool there resources to resolve the charging issues.
I had a Tesla Model 3 for 4 years if I was able to get 80% of the available range after charge I felt lucky
With my Ioniq 6, I get 95-105% of the available range after charging
Besides the drive on the Ioniq 6 is so much more enjoyable then the Tesla
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I sold my Tesla 3 after 3 years, got an I5 LTD, and have zero regrets. I hated the Tesla screen interface. Phantom braking was the last straw. My buddy with a new Y experiences it regularly. The collision avoidance system (on standard autopilot and full self driving) sees things it thinks are obstacles, but are not. Nonetheless it SLAMS on the brakes. It did it often, and on a 1200 mile road trip 8 times, most of the time on cruise at 75 mph. It effects all models all years. There is a class action suit forming around it. Musk is a weirdo I choose not to be associated with. EV haters know what a Tesla looks like. I was flipped off and swerved at regularly. The "coal rollers" in big diesel pickups will jockey into a position so their tailpipe is at your drivers window and stomp on it. It appears they don't know what any other EV looks like.

If I were you I would tough it out until the Tesla network fully opens to CCS cars, maybe a year.
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He is bizarre, but I buy stuff from China, and look what they do. I like the Tesla ride, some don’t. I’ve never had the 18 wheeler issue. My M3L/R is very fast, handles well, and suits me just fine. So did my Ionic5 SEL AWD. A minor parking lot incident resulted in a 7 month wait for parts, no rental from Hyundai, no extension of my EA charging. When Tesla lowered their prices and the ITC gave me $7500, I sold my Ionic to a friend and made the move. I don’t understand all the “competition” and chest thumping between the different owners. If you don’t like the Tesla, Musk, the ride, etc., don’t buy it. I won’t support Hyundai anymore because of their consumer treatment, not because of their car, which I liked.
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He is bizarre, but I buy stuff from China, and look what they do. I like the Tesla ride, some don’t. I’ve never had the 18 wheeler issue. My M3L/R is very fast, handles well, and suits me just fine. So did my Ionic5 SEL AWD. A minor parking lot incident resulted in a 7 month wait for parts, no rental from Hyundai, no extension of my EA charging. When Tesla lowered their prices and the ITC gave me $7500, I sold my Ionic to a friend and made the move. I don’t understand all the “competition” and chest thumping between the different owners. If you don’t like the Tesla, Musk, the ride, etc., don’t buy it. I won’t support Hyundai anymore because of their consumer treatment, not because of their car, which I liked.
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In my 2023 M3 L/R in town I get about the EPA numbers. On the hwy, it depends on my driving speed. If I keep it to 70 mph I get 80-85% of EPA rated miles (358). It drops a lot above 75 mph. My mi/kWh in my AWD Ionic 5 was about 3.2-3.5. My Tesla is 4. Clearly more efficient. Both excelkent cars.
My average on Ioniq 6 is about 3.9-4.0 on normal driving, not faster than 75MPH
I sold my Tesla 3 after 3 years, got an I5 LTD, and have zero regrets. I hated the Tesla screen interface. Phantom braking was the last straw. My buddy with a new Y experiences it regularly. The collision avoidance system (on standard autopilot and full self driving) sees things it thinks are obstacles, but are not. Nonetheless it SLAMS on the brakes. It did it often, and on a 1200 mile road trip 8 times, most of the time on cruise at 75 mph. It effects all models all years. There is a class action suit forming around it. Musk is a weirdo I choose not to be associated with. EV haters know what a Tesla looks like. I was flipped off and swerved at regularly. The "coal rollers" in big diesel pickups will jockey into a position so their tailpipe is at your drivers window and stomp on it. It appears they don't know what any other EV looks like.

If I were you I would tough it out until the Tesla network fully opens to CCS cars, maybe a year.
I'm not sure they're going to. They committed to mostly open up destination chargers and now with Ford announcing they're going to use their charging standard it might explain why they've made zero progress in opening to CCS cars beyond a handful of chargers.
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