I wish!Forgive my ignorance, but looking at the Chargemap website they indicate that Tesla Super chargers are 135Kw Type 2.
Are these compatible and safe to use with an Ioniq EV?
Tesla has publicly stated that they are ready and willing to let any other car manufacturer license the supercharger technology and allow that makers cars use their infrastructure. So far no other manufacturer has taken them up on the offer.It is a pity or shame and waste of effort and investment that Tesla has decided not to be cooperative in this respect..
“Our Supercharger network is not intended to be a walled garden,” said Musk. “It’s intended to be available to other manufacturers if they’d like to use it. The only requirements are that the cars must be able to take the power output of our Superchargers, and then just pay whatever their proportion their usage is of the system. We’re actually in talks with some manufacturers about doing just that, and it will be exciting to share that news.”
If it wasn't for Tesla there would be very few EVs on the market. They have driven the EV market demand. As for their stock being over valued, that's fine. I got in at $30.Surely the manufacturers need to get together and stamp on this little upstart? It's already a company valued for in excess of its worth.
No. The Ioniq can trickle charge via your household 120V outlet using SAE-J1772 (basically if you look at the charger cable that came with your car, it's the end that doesn't go into the wall outlet), normal charge via level 2 SAE-J1772, or DC fast charge via level 3 SAE combo.Forgive my ignorance, but looking at the Chargemap website they indicate that Tesla Super chargers are 135Kw Type 2.
Are these compatible and safe to use with an Ioniq EV?
As I explained some time ago, the reason is that the petrol forecourt is built on the `5-minute turnround` business model. Even 30 minute charging is waaaaay too long for them as long as they have the pool of five minute customers... They will not tolerate a forecourt parking space or pump blocked for any more than 10 minutes as it impacts their bottom line.Innovation happens. When someone comes along and innovates or provides a forum for freedom to innovate, stuff becomes original. It's not that Tesla is BLOCKING the world from using their systems, it's that they're making up new stuff that's properly suited for their cars where the rest of the world makes the generic.
Personally, and it's not the same for everyone, when I see a product that clearly has serious innovation behind it and costs big, I have more of an appreciation for that than than the 200 million cars out there that all have buttons and twisty dials instead of something different. (Model 3 - You can't deny... It's cool!)
So let's all poo poo on Tesla for using a tech that wasn't perfectly suited for their cars when they first started developing them, then sticking with it.
They can make it so their cars can charge using everyone else's infrastructure, but it's not fair that their chargers don't charge everyone else's cars? In 15 years, this conversation will be moot. We're all in on the ground floor of EV's still (perhaps the first floor) so it's tough to find a place to charge our cars. What's shocking to me is that Gas Stations aren't installing chargers and coffee shops on their properties. There's a conversation that we should be starting!
If you wanna innovate, make THAT your business. There's literally PROPERTY CURRENTLY DESIGNATED for refuelling cars. ...AND electrically speaking, those properties are WAY more suitable and centrally located than some charge stations out there. Both in terms of safety and power requirements. (It takes a ton of power to run those pumps!)
Its all about money, vision, and motivation. The established brands were invited to invest and share the infrastructure. They declined. GM said "We don't build gas stations, why should we build charging stations." It's simple, the established automakers want to keep the oil fed combustion cars and trucks making them as much profit for as long as possible. They want to slow down the electric transformation for as long as they can. They are being dragged into building EVs kicking and screaming, and out of fear of being left behind. Tesla has no such baggage and is the only auto company that is behind beating the world's oil addiction 100%. It would have taken government intervention to make everyone use the same plug. I agree with you that all should use the same plug, and wish it was so, but sadly, it isn't. That's how a free market works.So everyone needs to seek commonality with Tesla, rather than the other way around? How very Musk...
Surely the manufacturers need to get together and stamp on this little upstart? It's already a company valued for in excess of its worth.
Seeking commonality among themselves renders Musk licensing unnecessary.
Yeah that's another advantage Tesla has over its competitors. You just need one app to access all of the supercharger network (or whatever they use as access point). Where as EVERY.SINGLE.OTHER.NETWORK has a different app.In Europe it is not the automakers that create the infrastructure, but mostly independent enterprises and cities. Tesla's chargers are in numbers a minority compared to the total number of chargers. The only thing to be expected from automakers including Tesla is that they use one standard connector type which works for all charging points.
I dont see that. He has offered to licence Superchargers access to other makes. There are already standards in place (CCS, Chademo and Type 2 in the EU), I would imagine it wouldn't be hard for a car maker which is making its first EV to support Superchargers. Theoretically, there would be nothing stopping a car supporting Superchargers and CCS, it would need an extra onboard wizardry. Its purely a matter of cost and willingness to adopt. The last thing we need is more incompatible systems as VW, Jag & Co roll out ultra-speed chargers.So everyone needs to seek commonality with Tesla, rather than the other way around? How very Musk...