I'd understand that entirely - but the same poster starting both? A short term memory problem at best, otherwise a Clarkson-like lapse in scientific impartiality.No need to start two threads, but it happens a lot. Someone sees some news, posts news without checking forum for prior post. Even moderators do it.
There's a lot of greenwashing where things are advertised as good for Mother Nature when they aren't. It's a marketing strategy to extract profit from those susceptible to paying indulgences for their "sins". I'm not saying all things marketed as "green" or even most things are misleading, only that many things are. "Awareness" is a fairly meaningless thing. Everyone is aware about breast cancer, but did that solve the problem? It's a cause to sell pink stuff to men (not saying breast cancer isn't important, or that people aren't well intentioned).There is the very missed point that EVs are a driving momentum for environmental awareness, and for renewable energy.
There is another common reason for that. You start a thread, go to new threads, and that thread doesn't show there (because nothing new in that thread since you posted). So you do it again! Or you navigate to the sub forum where you thought you had posted, and it doesn't show up in the expected forum. Happens in all forums.I'd understand that entirely - but the same poster starting both? A short term memory problem at best, otherwise a Clarkson-like lapse in scientific impartiality.
Agreed. But in that talk, he doesn't bring any plug-in hybrids into the equation.A plug-in hybrid as a 2nd family vehicle for longer trips is more appropriate than spending a fortune on a 500 mile range EV. It seems this is the direction the market is headed anyhow though. The #2 top selling vehicle in the US that plugs in is the Prius Prime. Of all the vehicles that offer both an BEV and plug-in hybrid option in the same model, the plug-in hybrid outsells the BEV anywhere between 2x to 10x. Clearly there is a place for plug-in hybrids as we bridge the gap between current battery technology, and future battery tech that hopefully doesn't suck so bad.
UK is now over the 50% renewables level most of the time:There are so many arguments to take into account. For example, when I plug my car in to charge, ALL of the additional energy required is coming from fossil fuel (in the UK gas tops up the nuclear and renewable generation)
Until there is an abundance of renewable electricity, that will always be the case. It does t mean that that argument is the right way to think about it though...
Also, you CAN argue that with the amount I save in fuel costs with an ev, I will have a surplus of disposable income, which I will likely spend on a foreign holiday or other damaging activity. Therefore conclusion is that overall EVs are worse!
We could argue it forever...!
50% non fossil, nuclear isn't classed as renewable, though is low carbon of course.UK is now over the 50% renewables level most of the time:
In the third quarter of 2019, the UK’s windfarms, solar panels, biomass and hydro plants generated more electricity than coal, oil and gas put together.www.carbonbrief.org
It will only get better. I think this is point the presentation misses - the shift away from the tail pipe means you can do something about.
Everything (nearly) is dependent on fossil fuel. You'd be hard pressed to find a single thing that didn't involve fossil fuels at some point. If you grow lettuce in your backyard, unless you're using manure for fertilizer and the seeds magically appeared from the sky, it required some amount of fossil fuel. Big oil doesn't have to trick us into using their products; we depend on them for virtually everything we do and have.He only suggests that we should buy hybrids, which are still 100% dependent* on fossil fuel. I'm sure that the big oil companies will agree with that...