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Results of experimentation with options for playing music files

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#1 ·
The Ioniq is the first car I’ve ever had without an auxiliary input jack. I spent the past couple of days experimenting with other options for playing lossless and high-res music files encoded in FLAC. I thought I would share the results.

To cut to the chase: my solution is iPhone + Apple CarPlay via USB connection + the Foobar2000 mobile app, with high-definition audio output enabled.

Longer version:

The first thing I tried was a USB flash drive. The sound was quite good, I liked the user interface, and you can store a heck of a lot of music files this way. However, this approach comes at the expense of gapless playback. Many albums play continuously from one track to the next with no pause--think of live albums, or classics like The Dark Side of the Moon. When playing albums like that via the USB flash drive, there is a brief pause between each track. I didn’t like that, so I abandoned this approach.

I turned next to my iPhone, connected to Apple CarPlay via a USB cable (not Bluetooth). I experimented with three different audio apps: Vox, VLC, and Foobar2000. (Apple Music cannot play FLAC files.) VLC and Foobar2000 are free; Vox requires a subscription if you want goodies like gapless playback.

Vox and VLC have the advantage of being fully CarPlay compatible; that is, they appear as icons in CarPlay and you can search the music library on the car's touch screen. Foobar2000 does not: you have to launch an album or playlist from the app on the phone. Once you start playing an album, however, it appears in CarPlay's "Now Playing," and from that point on, you can use the touchscreen and manual controls to reverse, fast forward, pause, etc., just as with the other apps.

However—you knew a “however” was coming!—Foobar2000 does a far better job of playing high-resolution audio files, provided that you enable high-definition audio output (Settings > Tools > Advanced). The difference was quite striking. For me, that made up for the inconvenience of not being able to browse the music folder on the touch screen. If you don’t have high-res music in your library, you’ll probably be happier with VLC.

I also experimented with different ways of getting music files from my PC to my phone. The simplest way, I decided, was via File Sharing in iTunes. Under [Name’s] iPhone, click File Sharing, then the name of your music player (e.g., VLC or Foobar). With Window Explorer queued up alongside, you can drag and drop entire folders from your music library into the music player’s “Documents” in iTunes.
 
#2 ·
I use an app called Neutron player on my iphone. I've tried foobar2000 but it had something lacking that Neutron had - I forget what, it's been a while (maybe file management?). I don't think it has any more than basic controls via carplay, but that's a non-issue for me - I don't want to have to mess with the cars screen way over there while I'm driving.
 
#3 ·
Well, for all your android users VLC is the easy choice as it plays almost everything - whether Music on the phone or Video on the PC. It's free, stays updated, and just works with whatever you throw at it. I must say I've never been enough of an audiophile to collect lossless audio. I have experimented with ripping .WAV files from CDs and comparing them to 320 kps MP3s and haven't really heard a difference - probably because I no longer spring for even mid range audio gear. Have been sucked into the high end soundbar for TV sound (Samsung HW-990C) and music sounds good on the sound bar so why pay a lot of money (and hassle) of receiver with speaker separates. Find the good enough sound from my sound bar greatly simplifies life (and you get this way in retirement unless that is one of your passions). Prefer to get top notch video (Samsung S90C QD-OLED) with good enough audio makes for a great viewing experience.
 
#4 ·
USB, VLC, and Foobar/Foobar equivalents have advantages and disadvantages, depending on how one listens to music in the car. Here is a quick summary from my admittedly brief experimentation:

USB. Advantages: Will play most any file format; you can store many audio files; full touch screen interface; you can leave it plugged in when you park and it will pick up right where you left off. Disadvantages: No gapless playback; it monopolizes the USB port. This might be the way to go if you like to shuffle tracks and don't need the USB port for your phone.

VLC. Advantages: Will play most any file format; full touch screen interface; gapless playback; can be used simultaneously with phone-based navigation apps. Disadvantage: poor playback of high-resolution files. This is the way to go if (a) you want to play FLAC while using your phone to navigate and (b) you're not a high-resolution enthusiast. I imagine most folks will fall into this category.

Foobar and equivalents. Advantage relative to VLC: Superior playback of high-resolution files. Disadvantage relative to VLC: Limited touch screen interface (playback only, file browsing stays on phone). If you're not a high-res enthusiast, there's no reason to go beyond VLC.
 
#6 ·
That may be true but it's hard to see how you can appreciate higher resolution audio files on the rather ordinary speakers on an SE model and I've been told on multiple other threads that the Bose Audio of the upgraded audio on an SEL or Limited trim isn't much better. So, IMHO, the best you get is still not suited to loading up a bunch of lossless audio files (where do you even buy such files). I do have some WAV files ripped from CD originals and haven't really noticed much (if any) difference - of course it may have just as much to do with loss of audio capability from being a pilot for most of my working life. Even with top notch protection for my ears I'm sure that (and age) have caused some hearing loss (haven't bothered to have them checked as long as I can still hear people talking to me in a normal voice). As for gapless playback (which seems to be a priority to you) never had it, haven't appreciated it so don't miss it. I'm glad you found a solution that works for you - a USB drive with 320 bit MP3's and touch screen access to them is plenty good enough for the time I'm in the car (just as likely to listen to podcasts and don't need much audio fidelity for that. As for USB ports, the two USB C ports in the center console are good enough for me on that front.
 
#8 ·
Just to clarify: Playback of high-resolution files sounds better with Foobar because of the way it handles the format. If high-res files are downsampled improperly, they sound worse than regular CD-quality files. This is what I experienced with VLC and the USB stick. No one should rush out to buy high-resolution music files for playback in a car: unless you are sitting still (and even then), you probably would not be able to hear the difference. But if you already have high-res files in your collection, and you want to play them in the car, then your best option is Foobar, provided that you enable high-resolution playback as described above.