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Rear motor not operating 45 min after charge!

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I am more than halfway into a 2,200 mile trip with a 5 month old 2023 I5, just passed the 5k mile mark. Beginning yesterday I noticed while on cruse control the car would lurch forward to compensate for being 2-3 mph under the cruse set point. Today I figured out the rear motor was no longer operating, the lurch was the delay until the front motor took over.

Today I charged 3 times for +/-30 min each. Then driving 70 mph for ~45 min all is normal car drives fine (no lurching). After 45 min of driving at 70 mph, the rear motor ceases to function, I then enable SNOW mode (constant AWD) to prevent lurching. (Image shows front motor doing all the work, rear shows a single bar but ODB2 reports zero)

Checked ODB2, no stored DTC's. The rear motor torque that was ranging between -8 & 35 during the 45 min after the charge, then torque is a constant zero.

Anybody know of a service bulletin that addresses this issue?
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On the last screenshot the Electric Oil Pump (EOP) for cooling the rear motor shows 0 rpm, but it should be spinning at 3060 rpm (EOP commanded). Was the EOP spinning as commanded before the RWD quit?
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The EOP Command shows between 2000-3000 (depending on how fast I'm traveling) both before and after RWD motor quits. The EOP Actial Speed always reports zero. Should I expect something different?

On the last screenshot the Electric Oil Pump (EOP) for cooling the rear motor shows 0 rpm, but it should be spinning at 3060 rpm (EOP commanded). Was the EOP spinning as commanded before the RWD quit?
I'm thinking he found the issue and the oil pump or pump controller went bad and could be causing the problem. Surprised it didn't set a code or service indicator, on cars I repaired with electric water pumps it sets a code shortly after it can't get the desired motor rpm or the current draw is too high/low.
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I checked mine today and rpm matched requested rpm.
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Bob,
Nice catch!!

Just verified with service tech that the rear EOP is not reporting any RPM's.

He is not familiar with the function of that item, and wonders why the RWD operates without the EOP for so long.

He is researching this issue now!

Thanks for the screen shot, that was helpful in advancing the troubleshooting.

Will update when more is known.

I checked mine today and rpm matched requested rpm. View attachment 50039
Hyundai tech support (on 3ed try) says: "replace rear junction box". Part is 2 days out. Will update then.

Thanks to all who have wrapped your minds around this conundrum!
Can I ask what ODB2 software/dongles people find most useful for the IONIQ? I see some great screenshots in this post.
Can I ask what ODB2 software/dongles people find most useful for the IONIQ? I see some great screenshots in this post.
I use the Car Scanner app on my phone, with a obd2 bluetooth adapter from amazon. Says it's out of stock many most others should work fine as well.
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Hey just wanted to say I am having the same exact problem, verifed it with the OBD2 dongle and my phone. EOP reporting 0 RPM and 0 Amps no matter what the EOP command is.

Tried taking it into the dealership they drove the car down the road a little and said "no issues". Showed them the screen shots of the EOP not working and they said they cant go off of my data (fair enough). Asked them to check the car again, with their OBD2 equipment to verify and they said no, they don't see any issue.

Without this throwing a code they refuse to even take the car back into the service center... Any suggestions?

Also here is someone else probably having the same issue:
reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/11if49c/2023_ioniq_5_sel_rwd_experiencing_power_limited/
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