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I am seriously considering purchasing my first EV, and am impressed with the Ioniq 5. But can I use this vehicle to visit my aging parents reliably, 180 miles away, in Indiana, during the cold winter months?
My work commute is 10 miles each way, so no worries there. But before I buy, I need to understand if I can use it for a 360 mile weekend trips. Indiana doesn’t have lots of charging stations. There is a charging station at the 90 mile mark. But can only plug into 110 when I arrive at my parents home. Any advice or watch outs? Should I go for the RWD long range 303 mile model? Or AWD for the snowy roads, with only 266 mile range?
 

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I am seriously considering purchasing my first EV, and am impressed with the Ioniq 5. But can I use this vehicle to visit my aging parents reliably, 180 miles away, in Indiana, during the cold winter months?
My work commute is 10 miles each way, so no worries there. But before I buy, I need to understand if I can use it for a 360 mile weekend trips. Indiana doesn’t have lots of charging stations. There is a charging station at the 90 mile mark. But can only plug into 110 when I arrive at my parents home. Any advice or watch outs? Should I go for the RWD long range 303 mile model? Or AWD for the snowy roads, with only 266 mile range?
The “granny cord” will give you 4 miles / hr of charging. So overnighter will yield at best 40 miles. Charge at the 90 mile mark in each direction when you’ll undoubtedly need to stop anyway and you should be fine. Just make sure that the station you wish to go to is operative and at least 150 kW for fast charging. I have had my Ioniq5 for four months and I have 5000 miles on it. No problem
 

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The “granny cord” will give you 4 miles / hr of charging. So overnighter will yield at best 40 miles. Charge at the 90 mile mark in each direction when you’ll undoubtedly need to stop anyway and you should be fine. Just make sure that the station you wish to go to is operative and at least 150 kW for fast charging. I have had my Ioniq5 for four months and I have 5000 miles on it. No problem
By the way you can very easily make the 180 as the rear wheel drive version will give you an honest 275 miles. It is the making it back to the midway 90 mile mark going back that is a bit tight. So that is why you would charge at the 90 mile halfway point on the way out.
 

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I bought an iD.3 to do a regular 160 mile trip in UK Winter, where temps could be around zero and sometimes we get snow. I like winter tyres for use when temps are <10C anyway, so bought a set of Nokian WR SUV 4 215/55 R18 95H tyres for winter time. The originals were Goodyear Efficient Grip 215/50 R19 93T, a very efficient tyre as it happens.

I decided to compare these, and did a couple of 44.4 mile trips up & down the motorway at identical speeds (70 on satnav), on the same day one after the other. Temperature was 13C, cold, but not that cold. Motorway was slightly damp, with some drizzle, one of those gloomy depressing sorts of days!
I got 3.48 m/kWh on the Goodyears, and 2.73 on the Winters. This translated to 202 miles on GYs, 159 on Nokians, using the 100% SOC capacity.
So the GYs would be fine for my 160 mile trips in winter, the Nokians a bit marginal so would have to slow down somewhat.

So what I learnt is that I could expect about a 1/4 reduction in range when on winter tyres, which are not optimised for EVs & efficiency as far as I'm aware, versus the GYs which definitely are very carefully designed to give a very low rolling resistance & good mpgs.

I don't know how these figures would have compared if this had been a snowy day at 0C, but I'm quite sure that Id' have had to slow down to probably 50-60 mph to keep my range up to the 160 mile mark if running winters.

In the end I sold the iD.3 as I didn't like the ergonomics one bit, and stuck with my Ioniq 38 what can also manage 202 miles in summer at 70 no problem, and I've learnt that I can also manage 200 miles in it (using 100% of the battery, so somewhat theoretical of course!) if I hypermile it by sheltering behind HGVs. In practice in winter at those 10C temps I'll be driving at fractionally faster than the HGVs, so a genuine 60 while they're limited to 58, and as the trip develops I can speed up a bit if my reserve (I usually see 180 on GOM at the start) is growing gently. Having a heatpump means that toggling heating on/off at statt of trip only changes the presicted range by 7 or 8 miles, an excellent result. without this I'd expect to lose more like 30 miles range in winter due to cabin heating. My Hyundai GOM is extremely accurate, I'd expect the Ioniq 5 one to be similarly good.

I was not impressed by the efficiency of the iD.3, despite a much larger battery 58 kWh useable than Ioniq 38.3 useable, the range was only about 25 miles more. Had hoped for a significant uplift of maybe 50 miles, but it wasn't there. I'm similarly not impresed by the efficiency of the Ioniq 5, no way will I consider that as a replacement for my 38! But the Ioniq 6 is another matter, sadly for me it's a saloon not a hatch, but otherwise it looks to be about the only affordable BEV around which has decent aerodynamics, I reckon I'd see 400 miles in summer no problem driving at 60 mph. SUV shapes are a disaster if you're looking for the most efficient BEVs, sleek coupes is what we need = better range, and cheaper running costs on the same trips. Tesla M3's have similar efficiency to the Ioniq 28/38s, again it's largely down to good aerodynamics.

Several things cut your range in winter - colder tyres are stiffer & harder to push along the road at walking pace upwards, so that affects you. Wet/damp roads, snow especially, all extra crud that has to be pumped out of the way, so that's a lot of energy. Speed's the biggest range killer, drag goes up quadratically with speed, so driving at 70 versus 50 means air drag's about (7*7)/(5*5) or 49/25, double the drag! My Ioniq 38 estimates are that Tyre losses (Rolling Resistance) is about 25% of the energy use in my trips, Wind resistance is most of the other 75%. Rolling Resistance goes up a bit with speed, but nothing like as dramatically as air drag does!

A further gotcha is that Li-ion battery capacity isn't a fixed set-in-stone value - I've seen reports of one such battery where the actual capacity drops 5% from a nice 20C ambient down to 0C freezing. So this is just another little-known facet to be noted.

Do your research carefully, find out what range others in your area are getting, whether they're using winters, how fast they go etc! My gut feeling is I'd want a mfr of at very least 300 mile claimed range to be certain of doing 200 in winrter in bad conditions, especially if I had to run winters. Ioniq 6 will definitely manage this, even on winters - it's significantly better than Ioniq 5 range-wise. Something like 389 miles claimed?

If the AWD Ioniq 5 does 266 miles in summer, good conditions, I'd expect this to drop to (160/200) of this on winters at similar road temps so that's now 213 miles on winter tyres with good road conditions. Add in some real snow, or torrential rain, and thats going to nose-dive. That 200 mile trip with ?only one? Rapid charger en-route sounds risky to me. A major power-outage, or regular scheduled maintenance, or damn great lorry blocking the access etc, could make it a very stessful topup, I always want to know there's a decent plan B Rapid somewhere else within range.

The RWD 303 mile range becomes 240 using same guesstimates with winters on in good conditions, I think I'd take that option myself. I'm nowadays happy starting out on a 200 mile trip in summer, mfr's claimed range is 196, because I know I can recover my losses by slowing down as necessary. My winter trips of 160 miles see me arriving with between 20 & 40 miles on the GOM, as the last bit I'll be speeding up to 70 or 75 as I've only got 20 miles to go with 50-60 in the tank, and any unexpected diversions/motorway closures thx to accident etc cannot possibly push me out-of-range at that stage.

My wife suffers rage anxiety, I don't, but I'm the one driving & I know how I can adjust to suit - she has to rely on me! She wasn't too impressed when we returned home, turtle picture on the dash, after short trip in rain, only had 1% left in the GOM! Her fault for insisting we dash off as fast as poss for a shopping trip, I'd wanted an extra 30 mins on the wallbox! :)

I discovered the final 10% on the GOM seems to vanish a lot faster than the first 10% we generally think the GOM isn't perfectly linear in miles range, rather that it's linear in the qty of amp-hours the battery is dishing out, but because the voltage of the cells drops suddenly as they get drained, the power of those amp-hours is reduced. I think H should may have compensated a bit for this, but it's perhaps a very difficult thing to quantify the voltage curve precisely, while the car's moving, regen's happening, ambient as well as battery temperature's fluctuating, precise state of any ageing/degradation of the cells is another variable, etc, so it's not surprising if they measure amp-hours rather than watt-hours - a far easier task.
 
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I drive with ABetterRoutePlanner ABRP as my navigation app. I plan the trip on my laptop and then use AndroidAuto. So far it has told me what I would arrive at and it ends up a higher % at the end of the trip. In this case you could put your home as the start and end point with your folks location and tell the app you want to arrive with, pick a number, maybe 25%. Then the app will tell you where to stop and to what level you need to charge to make the trip. On the return, tell the app what % you will start with and what you want to arrive at home with (15%?). It will tell you where and how much to charge again. Using the 110V charger that came with the car, I got a 30% increase in 18hrs of charging on a trip to friends I made in September. You get 2 year of free charging at EA so use them when you can. I usually charge to 80% and occasionally to 90% on trips unless the ABRP tells me to charge to a higher percentage.
You will learn in time. I just completed a 6,200-mile cross-country trip from Mississippi to Oregon and back in September.
 

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I don’t see the problem. You can stop at the charging station (90 miles point) about 10min then you will not have issue. As soon as arrive your parent house, you can charge with 110v. If you don’t want to make a stop then install nema 14-50 (level2) then bring your Level2 charger to your parent house.
 

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I am seriously considering purchasing my first EV, and am impressed with the Ioniq 5. But can I use this vehicle to visit my aging parents reliably, 180 miles away, in Indiana, during the cold winter months?
My work commute is 10 miles each way, so no worries there. But before I buy, I need to understand if I can use it for a 360 mile weekend trips. Indiana doesn’t have lots of charging stations. There is a charging station at the 90 mile mark. But can only plug into 110 when I arrive at my parents home. Any advice or watch outs? Should I go for the RWD long range 303 mile model? Or AWD for the snowy roads, with only 266 mile range?
You can also use the "Plugshare" app to look for Level 2 chargers in the area around your parent's house. A lot of towns and random businesses have installed them. A Level 2 charger is about 8X faster than a Level 1.
 

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"If the AWD Ioniq 5 does 266 miles in summer, good conditions, I'd expect this to drop to (160/200) of this on winters at similar road temps so that's now 213 miles on winter tyres with good road conditions."

I've had my I5 SEL AWD since early March, so I caught the tail end of winter. And at the time I was making a weekly trip from Cape Cod to southern Maine, about 125 miles each way. I'd usually leave the Cape with 80% SOC and arrive in Maine with something like 35 to 40% left. There is an EA station about 2 miles from my Maine destination, so I'd charge there and then basically repeat the trip except headed south.

Over the summer I was seeing GOMs of 325 at a 90% charge and actually getting that kind of range. The biggest issue, other than temperatures, I've seen affecting range is how heavy of foot you have. Set the ACC at 60 or 65mph and leave the driving to the I5.
 

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You shouldn't have a major issue, even in winter. You'd likely want AWD (though not 100% necessary unless you plan to drive through nasty snow storms), but even with the cold temp impacts on the battery your range should be fine to make it. Assuming you'd stay with your parents for a few days, you could recoup most miles with the 110v 'Granny' plug if you could leave the vehicle plugged in for 30-40 hours (or more). Though that method would lead to a lot of range anxiety and doesn't leave much wiggle room. So, as others have said, use an app like Plug Share or A Better Route Planner to find some DC Fast Charge stations along the route (150kw or more would be ideal, but anything over 60kw will charge fast enough over a half hour*). Then plan some bathroom/food breaks at those times and you will be right as rain...or snow, as the case may be.

*Cold will impact the speed of charging, so take that into account. Your battery should be warm after the logged miles, but plan to spend 20-40 minutes at the charger you choose.
 

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I am seriously considering purchasing my first EV, and am impressed with the Ioniq 5. But can I use this vehicle to visit my aging parents reliably, 180 miles away, in Indiana, during the cold winter months?
My work commute is 10 miles each way, so no worries there. But before I buy, I need to understand if I can use it for a 360 mile weekend trips. Indiana doesn’t have lots of charging stations. There is a charging station at the 90 mile mark. But can only plug into 110 when I arrive at my parents home. Any advice or watch outs? Should I go for the RWD long range 303 mile model? Or AWD for the snowy roads, with only 266 mile range?
Yes, you can definitely do it. We regularly drive about that distance in winter with our RWD Ioniq 5 with winter tires in Canada, and it can get VERY cold here. Your mileage will be 60-80 miles lower in winter with the heat on. What you'll need for your roundtrip is one charging stop someplace along the route - try to see if there's a fast charger someplace and plan to stop there either on your way or back.
If you're going for a couple of days, just plug the car into 110 and you'll recoup about 1kW/h, so in 2 days you'll get ~40 kW back.
 

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After 20k miles on my Ioniq 5 RWD.
The results being shown to me is :

at 80% Around 219miles
at 100% Slightly over 280miles.

I drive mostly highway...I would say 90% of time. And I drive fast. I don't baby the car.
The results above drop during the SUMMER.
 

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I am seriously considering purchasing my first EV, and am impressed with the Ioniq 5. But can I use this vehicle to visit my aging parents reliably, 180 miles away, in Indiana, during the cold winter months?
My work commute is 10 miles each way, so no worries there. But before I buy, I need to understand if I can use it for a 360 mile weekend trips. Indiana doesn’t have lots of charging stations. There is a charging station at the 90 mile mark. But can only plug into 110 when I arrive at my parents home. Any advice or watch outs? Should I go for the RWD long range 303 mile model? Or AWD for the snowy roads, with only 266 mile range?

As others have said go with the AWD and figure out a rhythm that works for you (maybe adding charge at a level 2 at lunch on the way, etc). Also, don't forget unconventional options like charging at campgrounds :D.

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