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Looking at the German site here I see one set of values, while the UK site here cites different values!
What is the reason for the differences and what are the official WLTP numbers?
 

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Looking at the German site here I see one set of values, while the UK site here cites different values!
What is the reason for the differences and what are the official WLTP numbers?
Don't forget that different countries define different trim levels. Which may add weight and other consumption-impacting features.
And hence impacts WLTP rating and consumption.
 

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Don't forget that different countries define different trim levels. Which may add weight and other consumption-impacting features.
And hence impacts WLTP rating and consumption.
I dont think this is the reason for the differences.
See for example 58.2kWh RWD 19": 400 km versus 386 km, cannot be explained by small differences iside a trim level.
I dont beleive there is different WLTP rating for each country, after all the W in WLTP stands for 'Worldwide'. EDIT: 'Worldwide harmonised'
 

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I dont think this is the reason for the differences.
See for example 58.2kWh RWD 19": 400 km versus 386 km, cannot be explained by small differences iside a trim level.
I dont beleive there is different WLTP rating for each country, after all the W in WLTP stands for 'Worldwide'.
With Brexit, do they now have different rules to follow? It might be more different than you think.
 

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Sorry, I fail ro see the connection to Brexit. The UK site states that the values are per WLTP rating.
 

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Sorry, I fail ro see the connection to Brexit. The UK site states that the values are per WLTP rating.
Different requirements in the car not the test. They might have extra equipment that reduces the distance. I don’t know I might be completely off. Just thinking aloud.
 

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What is the reason for the differences and what are the official WLTP numbers?
It struck me as odd too, especially compared to the Korean numbers which I don't think are WLTP anyway (no mention of it in the brochure). For comparison I made this table using the values for WLTP "combined" range. The 72.6 kWh AWD 19 vs RWD 20 is interesting, with DE RWD 20 getting more range than AWD 19, but the opposite for UK and BE... which have nice even 30 or 31 km spacings... Weird. Looking forward to more real world range tests.

BatteryDriveWheelDE kmDE milesUK kmUK milesBE kmBE milesNZ kmNZ milesKR km (not WLTP?)KR miles
58​
AWD19362224--------
58​
RWD19400248387240384238384238--
72.6​
AWD20432268432268430267430267370229
72.6​
AWD19462286463287460285460285390242
72.6​
RWD20470291453281451280451280401249
72.6​
RWD19485301484300481298481298421261

There's a note on What is WLTP: the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure? | WLTPfacts.eu that says, "...while the WLTP has a common global ‘core’, the European Union and other regions will apply the test in different ways depending on their road traffic laws and needs." so maybe there's some variance there. Or maybe it's marketing.

If my numbers are wrong, please call it out and I'll update the table.

Ref:
https://www.hyundai.de/wltp/
https://www1.hyundai.news/fileadmin/eu/uk/20210507_ioniq_5/hyundai-uk-ioniq-5-specs-tech.pdf
https://viewer.ipaper.io/hyundai-belux/fr/eco/ioniq-5/?page=6
https://www.hyundai.com/contents/repn-car/catalog/ioniq5-catalog.pdf
https://www.hyundai.co.nz/suv/ioniq-5/overview
 

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Its all a bit strange when all is said and done its swings and roundabouts. The bigger US battery (77KWh) will be heavier (about 6%) than the 72,6 KWh but if you are only charging too 80% its only 3 KWh more.
I will charge at home on an 11KW charger and that will be fine for 90% of my driving. I have another car for anything else.
 

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Hi!
we are traveling from South to north of Spain, yesterday we drove 279km, with very bad conditions (wind and 38-41 degrees , four adults and trunks full. Maximum speed was 100km/h.
The medium consumption was 17.8kw/100km.



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TraXa thanks for the information. You said the maximum speed was 100 km/hr, do you have an idea what you average speed was? This is lower Wh/km than I expected.
 

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It struck me as odd too, especially compared to the Korean numbers which I don't think are WLTP anyway (no mention of it in the brochure). For comparison I made this table using the values for WLTP "combined" range. The 72.6 kWh AWD 19 vs RWD 20 is interesting, with DE RWD 20 getting more range than AWD 19, but the opposite for UK and BE... which have nice even 30 or 31 km spacings... Weird. Looking forward to more real world range tests.

BatteryDriveWheelDE kmDE milesUK kmUK milesBE kmBE milesNZ kmNZ milesKR km (not WLTP?)KR miles
58​
AWD19362224--------
58​
RWD19400248387240384238384238--
72.6​
AWD20432268432268430267430267370229
72.6​
AWD19462286463287460285460285390242
72.6​
RWD20470291453281451280451280401249
72.6​
RWD19485301484300481298481298421261

There's a note on What is WLTP: the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure? | WLTPfacts.eu that says, "...while the WLTP has a common global ‘core’, the European Union and other regions will apply the test in different ways depending on their road traffic laws and needs." so maybe there's some variance there. Or maybe it's marketing.

If my numbers are wrong, please call it out and I'll update the table.

Ref:
https://www.hyundai.de/wltp/
https://www1.hyundai.news/fileadmin/eu/uk/20210507_ioniq_5/hyundai-uk-ioniq-5-specs-tech.pdf
https://viewer.ipaper.io/hyundai-belux/fr/eco/ioniq-5/?page=6
https://www.hyundai.com/contents/repn-car/catalog/ioniq5-catalog.pdf
https://www.hyundai.co.nz/suv/ioniq-5/overview
there are 3 types of WLTP tests : Class 3, 2 and 1
see wiki
 

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It struck me as odd too, especially compared to the Korean numbers which I don't think are WLTP anyway (no mention of it in the brochure). For comparison I made this table using the values for WLTP "combined" range. The 72.6 kWh AWD 19 vs RWD 20 is interesting, with DE RWD 20 getting more range than AWD 19, but the opposite for UK and BE... which have nice even 30 or 31 km spacings... Weird. Looking forward to more real world range tests.

BatteryDriveWheelDE kmDE milesUK kmUK milesBE kmBE milesNZ kmNZ milesKR km (not WLTP?)KR miles
58​
AWD19362224--------
58​
RWD19400248387240384238384238--
72.6​
AWD20432268432268430267430267370229
72.6​
AWD19462286463287460285460285390242
72.6​
RWD20470291453281451280451280401249
72.6​
RWD19485301484300481298481298421261

There's a note on What is WLTP: the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure? | WLTPfacts.eu that says, "...while the WLTP has a common global ‘core’, the European Union and other regions will apply the test in different ways depending on their road traffic laws and needs." so maybe there's some variance there. Or maybe it's marketing.

If my numbers are wrong, please call it out and I'll update the table.

Ref:
https://www.hyundai.de/wltp/
https://www1.hyundai.news/fileadmin/eu/uk/20210507_ioniq_5/hyundai-uk-ioniq-5-specs-tech.pdf
https://viewer.ipaper.io/hyundai-belux/fr/eco/ioniq-5/?page=6
https://www.hyundai.com/contents/repn-car/catalog/ioniq5-catalog.pdf
https://www.hyundai.co.nz/suv/ioniq-5/overview
How about a real world test. 75mph with the AC on. Interstate travel.
 

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there are 3 types of WLTP tests: Class 3, 2 and 1
see wiki
The IONIQ 5 is tested in class 3 WLTP. This is also called the combined WLTP cycle.
This is the combination of low, middle, high and extra high speed during a certain duration (see table below):
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These are the official European WLTP figures of range and consumption:
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In the right column for which countries I already have checked it.
NOTES:
- the figures above are the combined WLTP figures (13% city, 21% small roads, 31% medium roads, 35% highway)​
- don't mix with urban WLTP figures, which are only the city driving results)​
- Most reviewers complain that they can never reach the WLTP figures, but they drive for example continuously on the highway at a certain speed. This can not be compared with a mix of driving situations and speed.​
 

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How about a real world test. 75mph with the AC on. Interstate travel.
I am busy assembling all the real tests that I have found. i will try to put these numbers in a table for publishing on this forum.
With 72.6 KWh battery AWD 305hp 20 inch wheels with AC on, you must be able to reach between 330 and 350km of range at a speed of 120km/h (75mph).
 

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TraXa thanks for the information. You said the maximum speed was 100 km/hr, do you have an idea what you average speed was? This is lower Wh/km than I expected.
No, sorry.. I don’t know how to see it in the infotainment system.
Today 130km in highway, 120km/h, 5 persons, 38 Celsius degrees: the consumption was 22.7kwh/100km


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No, sorry.. I don’t know how to see it in the infotainment system.
Today 130km in highway, 120km/h, 5 persons, 38 Celsius degrees: the consumption was 22.7kwh/100km


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Thanks so much. This is much like I would do living in Arizona. Your 120km/hr (74.564 mph) almost matches our speed limit of 75 mph. I have been using A Better Route Planner (ABRP) to check several long range trips I make a couple of times a year. ABRP uses an estimate of 371Wh/mi at 65 mph. Your consumption of 22.7kWh/100km translates to 366.13Wh/mi. (Assumes I did the math correctly.) Thus considering you were doing almost 10 mph faster than the ABRP base number, ABRP is close but a little conservative. Great news for the Ioniq5.

As you get more information, please post as there are several people interested in the consumption. (y)(y)(y)
 

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Thanks so much. This is much like I would do living in Arizona. Your 120km/hr (74.564 mph) almost matches our speed limit of 75 mph. I have been using A Better Route Planner (ABRP) to check several long range trips I make a couple of times a year. ABRP uses an estimate of 371Wh/mi at 65 mph. Your consumption of 22.7kWh/100km translates to 366.13Wh/mi. (Assumes I did the math correctly.) Thus considering you were doing almost 10 mph faster than the ABRP base number, ABRP is close but a little conservative. Great news for the Ioniq5.

As you get more information, please post as there are several people interested in the consumption. (y)(y)(y)
Today we are going to travel 752km (467,271 miles), four persons and full trunks.
Tomorrow I’ll post our consumptions

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Today we are going to travel 752km (467,271 miles), four persons and full trunks.
Tomorrow I’ll post our consumptions

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Thanks so much for your information.
I see you are using ABRP as I am. When I finish a plan it gives me the summary of the estimate for the trip. Example below for 903 mile trip. It shows it will take 335.4 kWh for an average of 357 Wh/mi. The car selected is the Ioniq5 AWD with the 77 kWh battery (US standard configuration)
Can you compare your ABRP estimate with your actual results.

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Here’s my average in this travel 20kwh/100km close to 322wh/mi

Almost all the time with full trunks and four passengers onboard (exterior temperature 38-41 Celsius )


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