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Minor HV battery damage! One shop says replace it for a small fortune, the other says it's fine.

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3.6K views 36 replies 22 participants last post by  nlc201  
#1 ·
I was on a road trip last month when I had a problem with my rear motor inverter. I took it to the nearest Hyundai service center I could find and they fixed it under warranty. No real issue there. BUT, while inspecting my '22 I5, they noticed some damage on the bottom of the HV battery. The base and side were a bit scratched with some damage to the fiberglass and one of the restraining bolts was either sheered off or missing. Therefore, I must have hit something on the road, though the only event I can think of that could have caused this was such a minor incident, I nearly forgot about it. So, it was a surprise to me. But nowhere as surprising as what came next. They said that any potential damage to the HV battery necessitated a complete battery replacement. The rationale being that they were not sure of the damage allowing contamination like moisture / dirt into the guts of the pack, which would obviously be bad. The quote they gave me for this replacement was.....wait for it....

$52,472.15 USD.

Yup. Not a typo. Over 52 grand. More than a brand new Ioniq 5 cost! Obviously this is completely out of the question. They recommended I not drive it anymore for safety reasons and contact my insurance. I'm assuming my insurance would simply write off the car at that point since that price is well over twice what my car is worth. So, I had the shop fix the inverter under warranty and some weeks later got my car back and finally drove it back up to Oregon where I live. Not thrilled with the situation but pretty resigned to the fact that my I5 was going to be written off, despite me driving it a couple thousand miles with this battery damage with no issues. To be clear, the battery has not leaked any fluid, thrown any errors / diagnostic codes, or behaved oddly in any way since this damage would have occurred.

So, I decided to get a second opinion at my local Hyundai service center near my home. They came back with a completely different prognosis. They acknowledged the damage but considered it insignificant to the operation of the battery citing no evidence the battery itself was damaged or compromised in anyway. Just got a bit of a scratch and missing a bolt. In their opinion, the car is fine to keep driving and not to worry about it.

So, two vastly different opinions! I know which one I prefer, but I want to make sure everything is safe as well. I've posted pictures of the damage. I invite comments!

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#2 ·
Obviously, I am just a random person on the Internet so my qualifications to answer this are non-existent.

That said, it looks like a protective cover got damaged rather than the battery itself. I would go with what you local dealer told you and not sweat it. But. . . I might also check to see if the protective cover by itself can be replaced.
 
#7 ·
I would think that if a minor scrape like that caused actual damage to the battery, then EVs are not yet ready for public roads.

I'd check occasionally with Car Scanner to see if there are any errors or voltage issues. Which is something I do anyway.

And it wouldn't hurt to replace the cover and broken bolts.
 
#9 ·
I say get the cover replaced by Hyundai (obviously one that says "it's all cool"). Once it is off, they can actually look at the battery pack to see IF there are any damages.
I would not leave it as-is just because this could become the cause for warranty refusal later down the line IF there actually are any issues with battery since they can simply point at this damage as cause even if it probably isn't.
 
#15 ·
There are big holes on the shield, so it's not waterproof. But I would replace it anyway for reason that have already been stated.
 
#16 ·
Even if you're able to fix this quickly without any trouble, please report that stupid quote to Hyundai corporate. They've been trying to rein in ridiculous dealerships because quotes like that rightly kill them from a PR perspective. See, e.g.
It's gone now for some reason, but @Corbin ran a statement from Hyundai after the Motormouth videos basically saying that that's not the real price and they're trying to get dealerships in line.
 
#17 ·
Thanks all! I think my next step will to be to try and get in touch with Hyundai themselves and get their take on it. I'll post any updates here as I get them. In the meantime, I've been driving the car with no issues. I've got an OBD reader installed semi-permanently and will keep my eyes on any codes that come up, although there were no relevant codes last time I checked. My main concern would be moisture penetration into the guts of the battery. Here in the Pacific NW, it doesn't rain pretty much at all during the Summer, but that changes drastically come October when it rains for 8 months straight.
 
#18 ·
My main concern would be moisture penetration into the guts of the battery.
That plastic shield does little to keep out water. It has several round holes in it, but it is glued down iirc from the Munro & Associates video. It's the battery case itself that really sealed with friction welds all the way around.

But, as with any car, that doesn't mean you want to drive through deep water. Normal wet roads won't be an issue.
 
#19 ·
This story reminds me of my own experience 30 years ago.

I was travelling down a hiway on a foggy Alberta night and I entered a curve too fast (it was sudden and a surprise).

I over-steered and slid off the road. After doing a few doughnuts on the side of the road in the wet grass, the car came to a stop. I jumped out and there appeared to be no damage. I limped home but noticed that the steering was a bit off.

I brought the car into a local garage and they explained that the frame was "twisted" and it would be a very costly repair. I balked at that assessment and sought out a second opinon.

Turns out that I only needed to have an alignment done. I had that done and I drove that car for another 16 years with no issues. Go figure.
 
#25 ·
One more "don't bother doing anything about it" opinion over here. That is a purely defensive shield to prevent road debris from cutting open the cooling channels behind it. It looks like it did its job, and it looks like it's in plenty fine shape to keep doing its job, and if you haven't gotten any temperature errors or lost any coolant, I think it's safe to say whatever damage it's covering up is too minor to worry about.

If you held a gun to my head and said "fix it for less than 50 grand" I'd probably just put a little patch of new fiberglass over that area so it wouldn't fray anymore or get snow/salt ingress. In fact, if this were my car, I'd strongly consider adding a little duct tape, just to keep the damp out (or maybe a tape a little more durable than duct tape but you get the idea).
 
#26 ·
I would probably remove the shield from the car so that it can be worked on properly indoors, and use fibreglass mat and paste to repair it. Then paint the entire shield so that any casual observer under there would not focus on that small area.

At the end of the day it's just like a motorcycle helmet that has been scratched in a minor spill. In that case you would replace the lid not the brain inside it.
 
#27 ·
The battery shield, made of glass fibre and resin, has a certain amount of flexibility as all materials do. Yours has clearly exceeded its flexibility limit by the force of the impact it received., The question in my mind is, at the moment of its breaking how much of that force was transferred to the HV battery. How much damage was caused? .A little? A lot? None at all? I would want to remove the shield to determine just how the battery was affected before jumping to the conclusion that all is fine with the battery.
 
#28 ·
OP has to decide on the risk. The best action is the worse case, replace it. Otherwise, use some common sense...
  • Look at the construction of the battery chassis in the tear down in post #20. Coolant circulates at the bottom. There is no leak and no sign of battery/charge issue.
  • The damage is at the edge. If the impact is beyond the shield, it would be on the battery chassis edge which seems to be the strongest from the tear down video.
  • Remove and patch the shield is not trivial due to size, adhesive remove+cleanup+reapply. Might end up breaking the shield at another area 😆 due to the adhesive.

Posts are from people with different level of education, experience, profession. Drive it for a few more weeks to monitor for abnormalities. If none, then duct tape or go under to improve the condition with fibreglass replace kit or do nothing.
 
#30 ·
That'd be a fair question if it was definitely-for-sure necessary to replace the battery, but at this point this whole thread amounts to "I got a rock chip in the hood. One shop says my car is going to catch fire and it'll cost me $50k to fix, the other shop says buy a $10 paint pen."

If you had a paint chip, would you pay a $1000 deductible and bump your insurance rates to fix it?
 
#31 ·
I would certainly turn over the decision to my insurance company and ask for a written statement about whether it needs to be repaired, replaced, or does not need repair. That should be free, right? I dont know if you own or lease your vehicle. If leased, it would be a bummer if they charged you 30,000 to return a car with a residual of 20,000. If owned, you couldn't sell it because potential owners have it inspected and pass because of the "risk". Again, getting your insurance company to take a look, doesn't mean you have to do anything.