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This is a big deal because I live exactly 30 miles away from my job. Started with 29 miles of range (100% battery filled) and made it up the ramp into the garage with "1" mile left.

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Now all you have to do is get free charging at work for the return trip:D.
 

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Now all you have to do is get free charging at work for the return trip:D.
My office building has car chargers, but they charge $1.99/hour for charging. I did some back-of-the-envelope calculations and found that to be a little bit too much. I contacted the building manager about whether tenants of the building have a special rate. Interestingly, they said that in the many years that the chargers have been there, only 1 person has ever contacted them about the chargers. Plus, they don't see much usage. I suggested that the rate might have something to do with that. They are getting back to me about whether they will provide a discounted rate to tenants.

There is a casino down the street that has free parking and apparently free charging, but I haven't tested this out yet.
 

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My office building has car chargers, but they charge $1.99/hour for charging. I did some back-of-the-envelope calculations and found that to be a little bit too much. I contacted the building manager about whether tenants of the building have a special rate. Interestingly, they said that in the many years that the chargers have been there, only 1 person has ever contacted them about the chargers. Plus, they don't see much usage. I suggested that the rate might have something to do with that. They are getting back to me about whether they will provide a discounted rate to tenants.

There is a casino down the street that has free parking and apparently free charging, but I haven't tested this out yet.

So you bought a plug-in hybrid for the electric miles...? :confused:

30 miles plodding with a 60-horse electric motor would drive me bonkers! the best use of the PHEV electricity is to reduce the use of the ICE at normal road speeds. And the best use of the ICE is not to have it sitting there - doing nothing - but operating in such a range as to boost battery storage. After all, you are doing the 30 miles each way regardless, so why wouldn't you have the car recharge itself en route?

FWIW I find ANY journey of more than 20 miles it's best to uses the ICE and Motor in concert... I limit electric-only use for the few miles to the shops or for end-of-journey routes off the fast roads...
 

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So you bought a plug-in hybrid for the electric miles...? :confused:

30 miles plodding with a 60-horse electric motor would drive me bonkers! the best use of the PHEV electricity is to reduce the use of the ICE at normal road speeds. And the best use of the ICE is not to have it sitting there - doing nothing - but operating in such a range as to boost battery storage. After all, you are doing the 30 miles each way regardless, so why wouldn't you have the car recharge itself en route?

FWIW I find ANY journey of more than 20 miles it's best to uses the ICE and Motor in concert... I limit electric-only use for the few miles to the shops or for end-of-journey routes off the fast roads...
I wanted to go full electric but I live in a very spread out area and I take many long weekend trips (150+ miles in one direction) to places without electric chargers. Plus, I wasn't ready to put up the cash for the really long range electrics on the market.

So, I bought a PHEV as a compromise. My goal is to reduce gas consumption for cost and environmental reasons. And I was tired of going to the gas station every 5 days in my old car.

The way I see it, it can act like an electric car for short-range trips. 22 miles of my 30 mile commute is on the highway. So plodding doesn't really matter. I'll be going 65ish either way.

I'm only 2 weeks in, so we'll see if I go crazy with the "plodding". I drop it into sport mode whenever the roads turn curvy or whenever I'm in two-lane traffic and want to take off at stop lights. O:)
 

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@humblpirate: I also have a PHEV and travel out to your location (I believe you said Northampton, Ma) regularly for work - the BEV wouldn't work for me and the PHEV is cheaper after federal rebate than the HEV. You made a great choice!

I have ~6200 miles since I took delivery (3/11) with an average fuel consumption of 88 MPG (US) as figured by Fuelio.
My daily commute is 72 miles round trip of which 39 is highway - I am able to use EV for all non-highway travel (and 2-3 miles of highway depending on HVAC usage)

You can get phenominal mileage by just charging at home even if your commute exceeds EV range - the caveat is that you still need to pay for power at home unless you have solar (I do).


As far as plodding along on EV - not really. The local police around Northampton are really excited to "allow" you to make a donation to the city if you get too frisky while driving around.

The other issue with the area is that I don't think a single pedestrian in Northampton understands physics and pain - they just walk into the road randomly.
 

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I wanted to go full electric but I live in a very spread out area and I take many long weekend trips (150+ miles in one direction) to places without electric chargers. Plus, I wasn't ready to put up the cash for the really long range electrics on the market.

So, I bought a PHEV as a compromise. My goal is to reduce gas consumption for cost and environmental reasons. And I was tired of going to the gas station every 5 days in my old car.

The way I see it, it can act like an electric car for short-range trips. 22 miles of my 30 mile commute is on the highway. So plodding doesn't really matter. I'll be going 65ish either way.

I'm only 2 weeks in, so we'll see if I go crazy with the "plodding". I drop it into sport mode whenever the roads turn curvy or whenever I'm in two-lane traffic and want to take off at stop lights. O:)
Exactly the reason I bought my 2016 Prius before the EV Ioniq. I could do local miles on cheaper electric (work, shopping), and visit relatives 100 miles away on ICE/electric. With the 135 mile range of the EV Ioniq and improved charging infrastructure, I eventually changed up to the full EV which I had always wanted.

Good luck with haggling on a charging price at work. :)
 

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I wanted to go full electric but I live in a very spread out area and I take many long weekend trips (150+ miles in one direction) to places without electric chargers. Plus, I wasn't ready to put up the cash for the really long range electrics on the market.

So, I bought a PHEV as a compromise. My goal is to reduce gas consumption for cost and environmental reasons. And I was tired of going to the gas station every 5 days in my old car.

The way I see it, it can act like an electric car for short-range trips. 22 miles of my 30 mile commute is on the highway. So plodding doesn't really matter. I'll be going 65ish either way.

I'm only 2 weeks in, so we'll see if I go crazy with the "plodding". I drop it into sport mode whenever the roads turn curvy or whenever I'm in two-lane traffic and want to take off at stop lights. O:)
I would like to be able to run an EV, but unlike the UK, urban areas here are rather more spread out, and journeys often too long for the poor population of charging stations, so right now it isn't possible for me. A PHEV would have been great if I had charging options at home, because my commute is barely 10 miles each way, meaning that I could run in EV mode every day at a third the cost of petrol, and only need to run as an HEV on longer trips.

In the end I bought my HEV as the best compromise available to me, but the next purchase will be either a plug-in or EV, depending on the build-out of charging stations in my area and the wider region I travel in.

It's hard to argue with a PHEV used routinely in EV mode for short commutes or trips to the shops if the cost of charging is a fraction of the cost of petrol. I love my HEV, but am still rather envious of those with charging choices!
 

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I would like to be able to run an EV, but unlike the UK, urban areas here are rather more spread out, and journeys often too long for the poor population of charging stations, so right now it isn't possible for me. A PHEV would have been great if I had charging options at home, because my commute is barely 10 miles each way, meaning that I could run in EV mode every day at a third the cost of petrol, and only need to run as an HEV on longer trips.

In the end I bought my HEV as the best compromise available to me, but the next purchase will be either a plug-in or EV, depending on the build-out of charging stations in my area and the wider region I travel in.

It's hard to argue with a PHEV used routinely in EV mode for short commutes or trips to the shops if the cost of charging is a fraction of the cost of petrol. I love my HEV, but am still rather envious of those with charging choices!
I'm currently charging on the simple 110v charger that came with the car and the regular power outlet. If you push the car to "0" miles range, the max charge time I've seen is around 6 hours. Once I'm home, I'm generally home for 6+ hours, so I don't yet see the point of paying for a 220v home charger. Not sure if that factors in to your decision, or if you aren't physically near any kind of outlet when you park. :)
 

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@humblpirate: I also have a PHEV and travel out to your location (I believe you said Northampton, Ma) regularly for work - the BEV wouldn't work for me and the PHEV is cheaper after federal rebate than the HEV. You made a great choice!

I have ~6200 miles since I took delivery (3/11) with an average fuel consumption of 88 MPG (US) as figured by Fuelio.
My daily commute is 72 miles round trip of which 39 is highway - I am able to use EV for all non-highway travel (and 2-3 miles of highway depending on HVAC usage)

You can get phenominal mileage by just charging at home even if your commute exceeds EV range - the caveat is that you still need to pay for power at home unless you have solar (I do).


As far as plodding along on EV - not really. The local police around Northampton are really excited to "allow" you to make a donation to the city if you get too frisky while driving around.

The other issue with the area is that I don't think a single pedestrian in Northampton understands physics and pain - they just walk into the road randomly.
:laugh: I'm sure the Northampton police would love to pull over a hybrid for speeding! We've got some sluggish Prius drivers around here ;). I've been having a lot of fun taking off at stop lights in Sport mode. I pay for power at my house, but it is from a local solar field, which I figure makes it better :).

If you want to see some oblivious pedestrians, go on over to the UMASS campus when it's in session ... even worse than Noho for just walking out into the road :facepalm:

I'm a bit annoyed that there is no easy way to track miles/kWh. I've got a meter set up on my 110 outlet at home, but I get a bit of free electricity here and there and I'd like to account for the freebies too. I'm getting 95 mpg on my first tank (still on the fill up from the dealer) but that seems like an inadequate measure of what is going on in a PHEV. It doesn't give me a good sense of whether gas or electric is more efficient than the other for my different kinds of driving.
 

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I'm currently charging on the simple 110v charger that came with the car and the regular power outlet. If you push the car to "0" miles range, the max charge time I've seen is around 6 hours. Once I'm home, I'm generally home for 6+ hours, so I don't yet see the point of paying for a 220v home charger. Not sure if that factors in to your decision, or if you aren't physically near any kind of outlet when you park. :)
I just don't have the option to charge at home at present, but if I did, I'd be in the same position - plenty of time for an overnight charge from 110v, every night. It would mean that most of my routine driving could be in EV, with only a few, mostly once a month, being outside the PHEV battery range.
 

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Most of my trips are in the 12 to 20 miles each, plus the occasional 25 miles each way. Now it is warm I quite often get 999 MPG. My average since the start of March is around 170 MPG (UK gallons) for 1400+ miles.
Yep, that really is similar to me: I do regular 17-miles a day in either electric mode or hybrid, and once a week do a 180-mile round trip.

At the moment I get about 85 mpg when using hybrid mode, and about 340-350 mpg when running solely on battery although it depends on how I drive. I have also seen the magical 999 mpg but it's an aberrant figure because of the limited capacity of the gauge - it only reads up to 99 mpg. I'm happy with 85 UK mpg as it's about 20 mpg better than my previous hybrid!
 

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@humblpirate: I also have a PHEV and travel out to your location (I believe you said Northampton, Ma) regularly for work - the BEV wouldn't work for me and the PHEV is cheaper after federal rebate than the HEV. You made a great choice!

I have ~6200 miles since I took delivery (3/11) with an average fuel consumption of 88 MPG (US) as figured by Fuelio.
My daily commute is 72 miles round trip of which 39 is highway - I am able to use EV for all non-highway travel (and 2-3 miles of highway depending on HVAC usage)

You can get phenominal mileage by just charging at home even if your commute exceeds EV range - the caveat is that you still need to pay for power at home unless you have solar (I do).


As far as plodding along on EV - not really. The local police around Northampton are really excited to "allow" you to make a donation to the city if you get too frisky while driving around.

The other issue with the area is that I don't think a single pedestrian in Northampton understands physics and pain - they just walk into the road randomly.
Probably the same as in Northampton in the UK - home of the deaf, dumb and blind pedestrian.
Seems the lack of sound (particularly in electric-only mode) will catch out idiots everywhere - barely a day goes by in the New Forest (Southampton, UK) when I don't cause someone to twitch when hearing the car late.
I've also had several cyclists need a good talking-to about the necessity to abandon earbuds! :mad:
 

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We bought the PHEV because our round trips are usually less than 20 miles. And with the rebate it was cheaper than the HEV. Had to fly from North Carolina to Maryland to pick mine up. PHEV's in the US are only sold in Maryland, Georgia and California apparently.
 
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