[JerryP]

But I cannot really believe that such a safery lapse is even possible under national safety regulations,

I'm stunned that this would be even something they would consider.

apparently in UK, maybe EU, theft risk is high and OEMs have responded with a deadlock scenario where the door handle is immobilized with two pushes of the lock button on the remote.

Maybe unintended consequences? But, as I recall, in the OP's case, the remote wasn't used to lock the car.

 

[Jim Hugh]

The car won't close the contacts to the socket unless it's in READY, Utility, or (I think) Accessory or ON. So, there'd be no connection to the 12V battery when you needed it.

What about an OBD port adapter to jump start battery pack? Just wondering.

 

[JerryP]

What about an OBD port adapter to jump start battery pack? Just wondering.

It won't handle much current. If you have a dead 12V, it's likely to pull so much power from the jump pack that it blows the fuse to the OBDII port. Still, if I was a UK driver and found myself in that predicament, and had the jump pack inside the car, I'd sure try it before breaking the window.

Bottom line is that it's borderline criminal negligence to design a car with a door that needs power to open.

 

[GregBrew]

We have a 240v power point under the back seat and a heads up display (that's on the windscreen, not under the seat!)

FYI, to others wondering, in the States, the power outlets are 120V 60Hz AC, and there is no N-G bond in the vehicle. The Hyundai-branded charge-port AC adapters do provide an N-G bond, though. Also, the Hyundai adapters have an "extra" Ground pin hole above the blades. DO NOT plug in a 5-15 plug upside down, with the Ground pin up. Doing so will reverse the Hot and Neutral wires, which can be a very bad thing. It's recommended to somehow cover or plug the upper ground pin hole, to prevent this from happening.

 

[robbratton]

Last week I went to my Ioniq 5 to check my mileage for insurance renewal. The car opened as normal.
When I attempted to start the car, I got a message on screen to press start key with the key fob. Not had it before.
The screen went on briefly and showed a warning about the 12v battery. It quickly went off. I tried to start the vehicle again - but nothing happened.
I tried to leave the car but the handles would not work. It was a very sunny morning and warm in the car. After trying handles a few times without success I tried to open the windows. Nothing. Everything was dead.
I did not have my mobile with me and had left house without telling my wife where I would be.
I began to panic and our car was not visible from any road to alert passers by. The temperature raised in the car and I began to hyperventilate.
After around 20-30 minutes my wife came out of the house to find out where I was. By this time I was in a bit of a state. She sought help from my neighbour who immediately called the Fire Brigade & Ambulance services.
When they arrived I managed to tell them of the brief warning for the 12v battery. The Fire Service were prepared to break windows but my neighbour had a spare 12v battery which fortunately could be hooked up to my car as I was able to release the bonnet. ( Good job that wasn’t electric) After hooking up to the battery they electrics came on and the doors could be opened.
I rang Hyundai when I overcome the shock. They said I had to contact Hyundai Assist who called out the AA.
The AA done quick test on battery and could not detect the issue.
The car was taken to Hyundai. After a day they contacted me to say the cannot find any issues on their diagnostic systems and said the 12v battery was OK.
I told them that this could have been a fatality if I had not been found, as the temperature in the car had raised dramatically , as asked them to provide information on escaping from the car when all electrics went dead.
The answer from them was that a driver would have to climb over front and back seats and then release the tailgate by sliding a flat instrument into the manual release hole on the inside of the tailgate. I’m 71 years of age with limited mobility.

So sorry to go on so much but I want to know if anyone else has had a similar event.
I’m waiting to hear back from Hyundai Customer services who I have registered my concern and complaint with them. I really don’t think they are taking this very 😦

Thank you for the information. I'm glad you are alright!

What year and trim line do you have? My 2024 Ioniq 5 SEL AWD Extended Range seems to have mechanical door handles. I'll verify that next time I'm in the car.

 

[Arob]

Thank you for the information. I'm glad you are alright!

What year and trim line do you have? My 2024 Ioniq 5 SEL AWD Extended Range seems to have mechanical door handles. I'll verify that next time I'm in the car.

If you read all of the posts in this thread, you will see several folks in USA and Australia have confirmed this isn't an issue. It seems to be a UK/EU anti-theft thing that deadlocks or disables the handles with two clicks of the lock on the fob, and perhaps when the 12V is not providing power to the car. You should be ok here in the US.

 

[JerryP]

I think we should edit the title of the thread since so few people look at anything except the original post.

 

[Tango Delta]

An hour after I passed the exact spot where that Tesla sits in the picture below, an Infinity driver traveling at ridiculous speed couldn't hold the gentle curve.
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If the Infinity driver was travelling at "ridiculous speed" they are indeed an idiot - notice the SPACE-SAVER Tyre on the rear left.

 

[Arob]

I think we should edit the title of the thread since so few people look at anything except the original post.

Likely due to browsing the forum in nested view!

FYI: Nested view puts replies under the posts they are replying to, and collapses them. Viewing the forum in nested view has it's +- impact, but it is very easy to miss a lot of great posts unless you expand each post/reply sequence.

To demonstrate the difference, in Nested view, the thread appears to be two pages long:

But in Original view, 7 pages:

To toggle between views, Click on More, then click on Nested view to see collapsed replies, or Original View to see all replies:

In this screenshot, you would know you are in Original View because the option to change to Nested is visible. If you are in Nested view mode, this entry would read Original view meaning clicking on it would change your view to Original, or flat view.

 

[j z]

Likely due to browsing the forum in nested view!

FYI: Nested view puts replies under the posts they are replying to, and collapses them. Viewing the forum in nested view has it's +- impact, but it is very easy to miss a lot of great posts unless you expand each post/reply sequence.

To demonstrate the difference, in Nested view, the thread appears to be two pages long:
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But in Original view, 7 pages:
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To toggle between views, Click on More, then click on Nested view to see collapsed replies, or Original View to see all replies:
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In this screenshot, you would know you are in Original View because the option to change to Nested is visible. If you are in Nested view mode, this entry would read Original view meaning clicking on it would change your view to Original, or flat view.

Thank You! That makes not only this thread but a lot of others so more readable!
maybe make this a sticky post in forum feedback/suggestions? Imho this should be the default view.

 

[Arob]

Thank You! That makes not only this thread but a lot of others so more readable!
maybe make this a sticky post in forum feedback/suggestions? Imho this should be the default view.

Like this: Forum Tip: Original vs Nested View

BTW, the host made this the only choice for guests (not logged in), and default for new members. That change happened in the last year or so. I believe those who were already members of a forum they run continued in Original/Flat mode. So it is only new members who get Nested by default, thus the Tip in the New Member section, which apparently a lot of folks don't pay as much attention to as they should.

Ah, well you know the saying about leading a horse to water.

 

[JerryP]

Viewing the forum in nested view has it's +- impact,

No disrespect to the admins at VS, but I don't see any plus side to nested view myself. I do agree that nested would explain a lot of misunderstandings.

 

[Arob]

No disrespect to the admins at VS, but I don't see any plus side to nested view myself. I do agree that nested would explain a lot of misunderstandings.

It was a hotly debated topic, but apparently a nod to the way Reddit and Facebook threads are organized. Perhaps their thinking is that younger folks are accustomed to that view from the other social Media sites?

In any event, I pinned that FAQ Tip a few months ago to help new members make sense of navigating the forum. All new users receive a welcome message encouraging them to read the sticky threads.

This is a systemwide behavior, on all ~2000 sites they host. So one site's appeal to change this isn't likely to prompt change. But, I try every time the topic is up for discussion.

 

[GregBrew]

I must be the outlier here, but I like nested view. If someone posts an off-topic comment that I have little interest in, I can skip the replies.

And I'm an old fart, who doesn't do social media or Reddit.

 

[Coastal]

I always switch off nested view (I find it hard to follow the thread) - thankfully it seems to remember once you are logged on different devices.

 

[Neil F]

(Aren’t we getting off topic….just saying)

 

[Arob]

(Aren’t we getting off topic….just saying)

We are, but it was in reply to a member not finding content above due to Nested View.

We can return to the original topic now!

 

[ctromley]

It's not the cheapest way to escape, but if no one had been there, this would have let you out. Every car should have one in case you land in a pond or a creek and can't get out any other way. Still, the inside handle should work without power. The outside one does. That needs to be a safety law.

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Getting stuck like that had to be mighty scary.

By the way, next time you want to check the odometer, there's no need to start the car to check it. I just open the driver's door and look at the odometer. It pops up in just a few seconds. Far faster and easier.

Haven't read the whole thread, happy to see this STUPID issue is not an issue in the US, but no one seems to understand a subtle and crucial distinction about these safety hammers:

The Ioniq 5 and 6 have laminated side glass, just like a windshield (because it's better for sound isolation). These hammers WILL NOT WORK as intended on our cars! They are designed for the far more common tempered glass used in side windows, where a sharp strike with its pointed face will make the entire window crumble into pea-gravel-sized bits.

The only thing this hammer will do to a laminated window is create a fractured window that is still held together by the polymer middle layer. Getting it out of the door frame is possible, but takes a lot more time than it should and will likely release sharp glass in the process.

The only glass (tempered) in our cars on which these hammers will work as intended is the rear window, meaning a climb to the back and an awkward exit at best. (EDIT: Maybe the sunroof. Not sure, can't read the markings on mine.)

Safety equipment is really not, unless you know how it works....

 

[rbdavis808]

The Ioniq 5 and 6 have laminated side glass, just like a windshield (because it's better for sound isolation). These hammers WILL NOT WORK as intended on our cars! They are designed for the far more common tempered glass used in side windows, where a sharp strike with its pointed face will make the entire window crumble into pea-gravel-sized bits.

According to this AAA reference, there is NO common escape tool that will break through laminated glass. You can google up any number of videos that reinforce the claim.

I did find first-responder-class tools that supposedly work, but they tend to be big and ugly or small and expensive. Check out the product video for the $725 Rhyno windshield cutter!

 

[Surfside6]

On the subject of door-latch design, this, from the Ioniq 6 service and repair manual, where there is no mention of electrical door latching, only door locking/unlocking:

This image shows the (white) connecting rod for the driver door:

This view includes the identification of the connecting rod.