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Hi,

I had a really brief test drive today on an Ioniq full EV (2017). I was after arriving in a Ford Mondeo, so quite a heavy car.
What surprised me was that the Ioniq seemed to handle the corners woefully on the test drive compared to the Mondeo.

Is this an issue with the car?

The test drive was brief, so I'm not sure if I was just gunning it more, but it really struggled on corners I could throw the Mondeo around with ease, and the Mondeo's hardly a race car!!

Especially noticed on one corner I managed to trigger the ESP and I felt like I wasn't going that fast around the bend.
 

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No, it is not exemplary, it is the iONIQ's design. This thing is no roadwarrior by any means. It's not fast, it looses grip too easily if you put the pedal to the metal and no, it doesn't corner very well. The standard tyres don't help either - those things were made for economy, not for a sporty driving experience.

As for weight, the iONIQ EV weighs a whopping 1600 kg, just as much as the mondeo.
 

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I must say the handling on the 38 isn't great compared to previous cars I've had. It's just not the sort of car to chuck about.
I don't think it is helped that in the full EV it has an old school torsion beam suspension set up, as opposed to independent multi link setup on the hybrid versions (to accommodate the bigger battery)
I don't think that is the main reason though, probably weight and different centre of gravity and eco tyres make it feel different to others. It always feels well planted and fairly balanced though and I don't think body roll is too bad unless you really plough it into a bend. I prefer to think of it as a relaxed driver. It can certainly get a bit lively accelerating out of a roundabout on a damp road with a bit of adverse camber though.
 

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I drive quite a lot of small windy roads, usually att the posted speed set on the cc. I think it does ok with the tires at 3 - 3.2 bar, the stock Michelins feel mushy when at the recommended 2.6 bar. New (sporter) tires would probably make a big difference (mine handles better even on my kumho winter tires).

There is also a lack of downforce on the rear axle due to the kamback shape that is not helped by Hyundais choice to not fit a full undertray(there is a ~50cm gap right around the rear axle).

Completing the undertray might help. There are also stiffer swaybars to fit and lowering springs available.

Its not a racecar, its a small economical runabout. I have had a makeshift undercover tray for the gap the last six months and I feel it helps keep the rear in line, gonna fabricate a better one this summer.
 

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IMHO the whole issue is down to fact that the front wheels have not enough weight on them. Eg. breaking on a straight road is very good, I don't have any problems with that, even on wet surfaces. Cornering must be performed carefully with the stock Michelins on a wet road. I plan to exchange those tyres to something different, with better grip.
 

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I've driven yesterday the first 120km in my new Ioniq over twisty country roads. I neither find it very enjoyable nor unpleasant or even dangerous. I've driven Ford Focus, VW Golf, e-Golf, BMW 3, Mazda 3 over a couple of years - but for my driving style I don't recognize major differences. The Ioniq was made for efficient and comfortable drive and that it delivers very reasonable. If you are searching for a fun-to-drive car, you need to search for something else.
 

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Does anyone find long journeys uncomfortable? I dont have any back problems or anything, but I find that pretty much after exactly 1.5hours of driving I get pain in lower back, never used to get that in previous cars where I'd sometimes driven 4 hours straight. It's either the seat or the driving position
It is my only real criticism of the car, though at 1.5 hours in its generally time for a charge I suppose!
 

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Does anyone find long journeys uncomfortable? I dont have any back problems or anything, but I find that pretty much after exactly 1.5hours of driving I get pain in lower back, never used to get that in previous cars where I'd sometimes driven 4 hours straight. It's either the seat or the driving position
Or the increased age - former you were younger. ;) To my taste the seats are quite well supported in the lower part of the rest, but I had problems in the past with a BMW 3 getting pain in the back.
 

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Does your car have lumbar support? Mine does and find it makes it very comfortable for long journeys,
 

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I don't find it bad at all. It is obviously heavier than the other C-Segment cars, but nothing terrible to drive. You just have to be aware of the low rolling resistance tires, weight transfer around corners, high torque on a weight discharged front axle under acceleration... You just can't drive it like a Saxo VTS around twisties, but if you adapt to the car, it responses gently.
 

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I don't find it bad at all. It is obviously heavier than the other C-Segment cars, but nothing terrible to drive. You just have to be aware of the low rolling resistance tires, weight transfer around corners, high torque on a weight discharged front axle under acceleration... You just can't drive it like a Saxo VTS around twisties, but if you adapt to the car, it responses gently.
Yes, considering these hold their value reasonably well, I'm considering buying it and if it doesn't sit well with me after six months, I can trade it in.

Thanks to everyone that has replied.

I just want to highlight again that I'm comparing it to a Mondeo. Absolutely miles from something that's built to corner really well, or a race car. It's also nearly 14 years old!
 

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I like the seats and think they are comfortable. Done 600km in a day (3 charge stops) for my longest journey. They are not Volvo Seats, but better than a lot of other seats, also like the driving position.
 

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Or the increased age - former you were younger. ;) To my taste the seats are quite well supported in the lower part of the rest, but I had problems in the past with a BMW 3 getting pain in the back.
Lol, only about a year younger! I think it's probably the pedal/seat position rather than the seat.
 

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Hah! This thread mentions many of the things I have been through. While investigating I found the EV to have a stiff rear axle. Really cheap and low end choice while the hybrid got a proper multilink rear axle.

I lowered my car 30mm and made a custom plate to fill the gap where the rear axle is. The missing part from having a flat underbody.





I too upped the tire pressure to 3.5bar or so. I will still stay on 16" and the lowers rolling resistance tires though.

My old daily driver was a Volvo V70 2007 diesel with 600000km on the clock. Ioniq handles better than that for sure. My toy is a Toyota MR2 -00, lowered with various bushings changes on 17" semi slicks. That one does better than the Ioniq LOL. But I would say the Ioniq is not that bad after all. I'm surprised how well it does on a winding road. For corners in the city, yes it lifts the inner tire and you don't get any power to the ground, but on the roads it's good. It's still fairly light compared to many other EVs.

Disable traction control to be your own boss and things will be better. It also won't keep power on cruise control of the road turns so you will actually drop speed through corners if not manually adding power.
 

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Hah! This thread mentions many of the things I have been through. While investigating I found the EV to have a stiff rear axle. Really cheap and low end choice while the hybrid got a proper multilink rear axle.

I lowered my car 30mm and made a custom plate to fill the gap where the rear axle is. The missing part from having a flat underbody.





I too upped the tire pressure to 3.5bar or so. I will still stay on 16" and the lowers rolling resistance tires though.

My old daily driver was a Volvo V70 2007 diesel with 600000km on the clock. Ioniq handles better than that for sure. My toy is a Toyota MR2 -00, lowered with various bushings changes on 17" semi slicks. That one does better than the Ioniq LOL. But I would say the Ioniq is not that bad after all. I'm surprised how well it does on a winding road. For corners in the city, yes it lifts the inner tire and you don't get any power to the ground, but on the roads it's good. It's still fairly light compared to many other EVs.

Disable traction control to be your own boss and things will be better. It also won't keep power on cruise control of the road turns so you will actually drop speed through corners if not manually adding power.
What is the custom plate supposed to achieve exactly?
Not sure overinflating tyres will improve ride/handling either. It may make economy better, but will surely make the ride harsher and give less grip (due to lower contact area)
 

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I doubt he's inflating his tyres to 50PSI. Typo?

I wouldn't go as far as adding a custom plate to the car, I'd get rid of it before doing that! I'll certainly add better tyres (rather grip and handling then economy) though.

I'm still so 50/50 on this because of how expensive it is..

On a side note, you're a mad man if you're lying under that wooden ramp!
 

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@Superhero your cover is crazy nice, you must have a nice workshop! Wanna make one for me? 🙃
Does the suspension ever move close enough that the rounded cutouts matter?

Mine is just a piece of hardboard weatherproofed with ductape(its just a prototype to test if its worth it, been under the car for 6 months now). I'm planning of using an old refrigerator door to make a more long term cover this summer.

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I never got around to measuring if it had any impact on consumption but the car feels better behaved on the motorway and in windy conditions.
 

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Several times I have made the trip from my home in North Hertfordshire to St Ives in Cornwall (3x 5-10 minute loo breaks and 1x 1/2 hour meal stop) and I find the car very comfortable, extremely stable at sat nav regulated 70mph (where allowed). It may be that my body shape just agrees with the car as I never use the lumber support, yet get out of the car pain free after 300 miles. My car has the 17" alloys and I run the stock tyres at the sticker pressure of 36psi as I take the view that it would have cost Hyundai thousands of testing hours and a lot of money to settle on that value, so who am I to think otherwise.

On this trip, apart from the first 1.5 miles and a couple of short section in Cornwall, the whole trip id dual carriageway or motorway and the ACC is superb.

Drive the car as intended (smoothly with plenty of anticipation) and you will be well rewarded with good handling and a more than acceptable ride, even when picking up the pace and making swift progress.

Why would you have a car like this to chuck into corners or drive it so it lifts a wheel in sharp bends? It's not a sports car, if that's what you want, look elsewhere.
 

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Why would you have a car like this to chuck into corners or drive it so it lifts a wheel in sharp bends? It's not a sports car, if that's what you want, look elsewhere.
Thanks for your input, but again, I'm not comparing it to a sports car.
I'm comparing it to a 14 year old Mondeo family wagon and it didn't even hold a candle to it in what I would call normal driving.
 
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