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I've been trying out the small Pioneer 50W subwoofer. I too mounted it to the plastic divider behind the rear seat in the middle. It's not bad, but I'm fighting some resonance in the plastic parts, specifically the long one that it is mounted to. Very convenient being able to have line level inputs (the original subwoofer wires) and powered by the 12V outlet back there. But, IMHO, not worth the effort over the improvements made with the MUSWAY amplifier, which actually get some sound out of the OEM subwoofer, and a lot more low end out of the front door woofers. I might play with it a bit more, but definitely thinking about putting in my JL boxed sub, even though it would take some rear space, or even putting the BOSE sub box back.

I did put down some Dynamat sheets on the back trunk deck while I had the back all opened up. I did not cover the hv access panel, so it remains easy to open if they ever need to get in there for the A/C hv fuse or something else in that rear junction box. Also, put two wide Dynamats strips the long way on the two flat panel sections of each of the front doors, definitely heard some quieting there. My assembly line person on the front passenger side door must have been distracted, because the putty like adhesive was adhered well to the moisture barrier, and almost not at all to the metal of the door. The bead was also off in a couple of places. It made it easy to remove that side, and between a roller and my thumbs, I got it tacked down now to the metal of the door when I reinstalled it. Fortunately that tacky putty like bead for the plastic moisture barrier remains pliable, and with just a little care, goes back on like new.
 

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I wonder if this harness (PUZU) could be adapted alone, for use use with other manufacturer amps? So, kind of semi-plug 'n play (cutting off the PUZU amp connector) with wires to the the connector that comes with the non-PUZU amp.
As the new owner of a 2023 SEL, I was wondering this as well for using this wiring harness to install an amplifier or powered subwoofer - can anyone confirm if the Limited and SEL have the same wiring harness and if it indeed looks like the one in this link?

Also this looks interesting as a low cost inline AMP/DSP for SEL owners:


As many have noted in this forum, I tried upgrading the front speakers with component speakers, but the stock amp seems to be missing something (bass), so looking for low cost options - I just want good sound, not too loud - (I am going to try upgrading the rears as well)

Any experience/comments on the Puzu PZ-C7 amplifier/dsp?
 

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As the new owner of a 2023 SEL, I was wondering this as well for using this wiring harness to install an amplifier or powered subwoofer - can anyone confirm if the Limited and SEL have the same wiring harness and if it indeed looks like the one in this link?

Also this looks interesting as a low cost inline AMP/DSP for SEL owners:


As many have noted in this forum, I tried upgrading the front speakers with component speakers, but the stock amp seems to be missing something (bass), so looking for low cost options - I just want good sound, not too loud - (I am going to try upgrading the rears as well)

Any experience/comments on the Puzu PZ-C7 amplifier/dsp?
Others will correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe a DSP will do much good as the wiring to the door tweeters is just an extension of the door woofer. For a DSP to tune properly you would want direct wiring to that tweeter.

I upgraded just the speakers first, and like you, was underwhelmed. So I purchased an AudioControl ACM 4.300 to drive the main speakers and a 10 inch Kicker Hideaway powered sub. Now it sounds great.

For front speakers I'm using Audison Voce AV K6 components
For rears I'm using Audison APX 6.5 Coax
 

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I purchased the BRS kit in Feb. Not too difficult to navigate their site using Google translate. Emailed them and purchased the kit for my Limited Bose system. My cost: $724.30. Arrived in 9 days. Installed the kit after watching their installation video on their site. Pretty simple install but as others have mentioned, smaller hands would be helpful to unlatch and latch the two connectors with the Bose amp located under the carpet below the passenger rear seat. FYI for anyone installing in the future, the retention clips that need to be pressed in to remove the connectors are on the top side of each one.
I'm very impressed with the overall sound quality. I now have my tone settings as neutral (0) for Bass, Mid and Treble. My Bose system now has better stereo imaging, improved soundstage, and overall substantially better sound quality. Its now nearly as good as the Lexicon system in my Genesis GV70. I'm super happy with the purchase.
 

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Very timely post--thanks for the info as well as Blucid above as my plan was to install the Musway DSP tonight. Just finished--video and pointers were very helpful. The original plugs didn't reach as far as they did in the video, but I was able to connect everything.

I thought the hardest part would be taking the plastic trim off but it ended up being plugging in the adapters. Like Blucid said before, the velcro sticks to the back of the seat well but not the floor carpet. I placed corresponding velcro strips with double sided tape on the carpet and the module seems to be stuck in place now.

Agree just at first listen it really makes a difference! Money well spent. I'll plan to leave the stock Bose speakers as is.
 
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I took a chance and ordered the Puzu PZ-C7 DSP/Amp from their web site (about $140) - I received it within one week of ordering from China - just installed it and I can confirm that the wiring harness is compatible with the SEL and the added power improves audio quality with my replacement speakers - audio parameters can be tuned via a Windows PC app when connected via USB to the Amplifier

I used a lot of information from these forums before purchasing to verify the connectors and signals vs the manufacturer wiring harness (Puzu #37) -

This was especially helpful for accessing the back of the factory head unit:


FWIW, the two connectors at the back of the head unit can be accessed by performing the above procedure to remove the USB console, then you remove a single screw on the lower trim panel to the left of the USB console - you can access the connectors on the back of the head unit without removing anything else if you gently bend the plastic center trim piece out while laying on your back on the drivers side floor and using your fingers to unlock, remove the 38 and 35 pin connectors, then insert the new wiring harness - it was a bit tedious but I did not have detailed information regarding how to remove the lower dash panels
 

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So here is a new plug 'n play amplifier possibility posted in another thread by @voxcuriosa. This store is willing to ship to the U.S.! Same kind of approach as the Bass Brothers version with the MATCH amplifier, except this one uses the Musway M6V3. ....
I went with this solution, and just finished the install!

As others have mentioned, I found unclipping + plugging the new wires somewhat challenging due to the limited space; you really have to pull up the felt a lot to make enough room for your hands to get in there. Also, running the wires through the trim was a bit of a pain until I understood which bit I needed to unlatch. But, so far so good - the sound staging seems vastly improved, as well as the overall richness of the sound; where before vocals felt flat and lifeless, they now have presence.
 

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I purchased the BRS kit in Feb. Not too difficult to navigate their site using Google translate. Emailed them and purchased the kit for my Limited Bose system. My cost: $724.30. Arrived in 9 days. Installed the kit after watching their installation video on their site. Pretty simple install but as others have mentioned, smaller hands would be helpful to unlatch and latch the two connectors with the Bose amp located under the carpet below the passenger rear seat. FYI for anyone installing in the future, the retention clips that need to be pressed in to remove the connectors are on the top side of each one.
I'm very impressed with the overall sound quality. I now have my tone settings as neutral (0) for Bass, Mid and Treble. My Bose system now has better stereo imaging, improved soundstage, and overall substantially better sound quality. Its now nearly as good as the Lexicon system in my Genesis GV70. I'm super happy with the purchase.
What would say the biggest improvement was? I find the stock BOSE/Limited system sound like somebody muffled all the speakers - everything lacks crispness and clarity. I don't care about bass.. I just want my audio not to sound like bad FM radio.
 

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What would say the biggest improvement was? I find the stock BOSE/Limited system sound like somebody muffled all the speakers - everything lacks crispness and clarity. I don't care about bass.. I just want my audio not to sound like bad FM radio.
The biggest improvement was that the overall sound is excellent and can be played at higher volumes without any distortion. Whatever they did with the DSP made the soundstage (an imaginary three-dimensional space created by the high-fidelity reproduction of sound in a stereo speaker system) oustanding. Music now sounds crisp with much greater clarity. I prefer a very accurate musical reproduction from my soundsystem. I do not like artificial enhancement. That's why with the BRS kit, I can leave the Bass, Mid and Treble settings at 0 for all three. I highly recommend the kit. Worth the price.
 

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What would say the biggest improvement was? I find the stock BOSE/Limited system sound like somebody muffled all the speakers - everything lacks crispness and clarity. I don't care about bass.. I just want my audio not to sound like bad FM radio.
Clarity is much improved. I also felt like the stock Bose system was weirdly muffled - with the added DSP they've woken up the tweeters and centre speaker, so that at reasonable volumes the sound stage is lifted and much more well rounded. It's not a super neutral tune out of the box - it feels v-shaped, with a good base kick as well as the improved upper end. I like the stock tuning far, far better than the Bose tuning, but would also consider a bit of tweaking to reduce the bass and up the mids.
 

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Clarity is much improved. I also felt like the stock Bose system was weirdly muffled - with the added DSP they've woken up the tweeters and centre speaker, so that at reasonable volumes the sound stage is lifted and much more well rounded. It's not a super neutral tune out of the box - it feels v-shaped, with a good base kick as well as the improved upper end. I like the stock tuning far, far better than the Bose tuning, but would also consider a bit of tweaking to reduce the bass and up the mids.
That's interesting. I installed the Puzu DSP amp and while it did improve the sound quite a bit, I'd still say it's a far cry from even the standard Harmon Kardon system in my old Volvo. Maybe the Musway DSP amp is better? I am planning to run power to the DSP amp from the battery and then install some Focals in the front and rear. After that I'm considering maybe adding a JL audio active sub in the back. I really don't think the Bose speakers are up to much. :(
 

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That's interesting. I installed the Puzu DSP amp and while it did improve the sound quite a bit, I'd still say it's a far cry from even the standard Harmon Kardon system in my old Volvo. Maybe the Musway DSP amp is better?
Maybe it's the tuning the guys in Norway achieved? I believe the tweeters are on the same channel as the door woofers, so it's a challenging setup to dial in.

Going full custom would be better, no doubt, but personally I feel like I'm now at the diminishing returns point - I'd have to invest a ton to get only a little bit better.
 

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Maybe it's the tuning the guys in Norway achieved? I believe the tweeters are on the same channel as the door woofers, so it's a challenging setup to dial in.

Going full custom would be better, no doubt, but personally I feel like I'm now at the diminishing returns point - I'd have to invest a ton to get only a little bit better.
I think the Norway guys use the Match amp. The Musway is a different group. Truth is, if I'd seen the Musway amp and harness before I saw the Puzu I would have totally gone for that instead, because they have a decent reputation and I've never heard of Puzu before.

Yeah, you're absolutely right, the tweeters are on the same channel, and the stock tweeters have a passive crossover on them. The great thing about the Focal front speakers is it comes with an adjustable crossover so you can boost the tweeters to give more brightness if necessary. I really don't want to run a separate speaker line from the tweeters to my amp, so this is a great compromise.

To be honest, I'm at the 'in for a penny, in for a pound' mindset now. But truth is that a cheap DSP amp and a decent pair of front speakers would be more than enough.
 
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