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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 14-05-19, 02:53 PM Thread Starter
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Was waiting on a dual carriageway to turn right at a roundabout. Car approaching from the right was in the correct lane to turn and was indicating left. Was moving onto the roundabout when my wife shouted. The car on the right decided not to turn after all and a collision was narrowly averted.
At the point of contact the car on the right would appear to have right of way but is that the whole story? Can imagine the grief I would get I waited too long in this situation.


Am actually quite shook up by the occurrence.



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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 14-05-19, 02:59 PM
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all to common occurrence unfortunatley

satnavs not giving clear directions, people being given poor directions by passenger, drivers not reading road signs correctly

I never move onto a round about or pull out in front of a car indicating to turn into the road I am joining from until they have commited to the turn and turning into the road

had to many near missies like you

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At the point of contact the car on the right would appear to have right of way but is that the whole story?
It's a long time since I passed my test in the UK, but I recall clearly being told that you give way to the vehicle that has the right of way, and that a turn signal does not demonstrate that the vehicle will turn, only the act of turning stops it having the right of way you must give way to.

In this situation, if you had pulled out onto the roundabout, and a collision had occurred, it would have been your fault for not giving way, despite the other driver's turn signal.

The police investigating would look for any sign that the vehicle already on the roundabout had been speeding, thus may have been culpable, but the turn signal would not be a helpful defence!

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From the Highway Code
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-high...oad-159-to-203

Rule 185
When reaching the roundabout you should

give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved off.

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in a Nutshell ...................................... NEVER EVER EVER .. "TRUST AN INDICATOR" On someone else's Car !!!!!!!!!!! ....
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in a Nutshell ...................................... NEVER EVER EVER .. "TRUST AN INDICATOR" On someone else's Car !!!!!!!!!!! ....
Reminds me of a an old work colleague of my sister . She always indicated right and turned left and vice versa . If I followed her I always anticipated this ...worked every time

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When I trained new motorcyclists, the most important lesson was that indicators always lie, because of the loose nut behind the wheel...

There's no point being right, and ending up in the gutter, or under a broken bike...
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Took me too long to understand that right means left and left means right in this case. Then it all made sense


On topic: I agree that signals are, at best, unreliable indicators of intention, and I have to watch the driver and the car to be aware of what's gonna happen. And even if the person makes all the right moves, they can still change their mind mid-turn and still go your way. Can't wait for the time when computers are suitable for driving instead of us petty humans

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Driving locally, always assume all other drivers don't know the roads and don't know where they are going. Just as you would be when driving in a big city you'd never been to before. That way you should always see the curve ball coming at you.

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Driving locally, always assume all other drivers don't know the roads and don't know where they are going. Just as you would be when driving in a big city you'd never been to before. That way you should always see the curve ball coming at you.
Maybe you should pass that sentiment on to about 90% of drivers in London ... and almost any other city come to think of it
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