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post #11 of 36 (permalink) Old 22-05-19, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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I'll second that plastic/organic panels are amazing,
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Often wondered why more vehicles do not use some form of plastic panels like Saturn did. The color was impregnated into the panel and if replacement was needed it was simple and Saturn even had a recycle policy for damaged panels.
On the recent episode of Autoline After Hours
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How does the car score in crash tests?
2018 & 2019 models are top safety picks. I think the 2017 was as well, but the page for the 2017 model is producing a 500 server error at the time of this writing.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...hatchback/2018
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...hatchback/2019

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How does the car score in crash tests?
`5` in the ENCAP tests
https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/hyundai/ioniq/25556

Crash protection does NOT depend on the structure of the vehicle, except insofar as crumple zones are incorporated into the design. That hasn't been the case since the 1950's...

All the plastics the OP is moaning about are UNrelated to crashworthiness but a heavy car brakes less well than a lighter one, and is less maneuverable so the solution is very simple: Don't drive into solid things and make full use of the electronics and driver aids!


I used to sell SMART cars and they had body panels you could bend with one finger, but scored 4-5 stars in actual tests
historic information here:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...kimpy-on-fuel/

But note the 50-'s hangover in this Noughties article: "IIHS testers caution that larger, heavier cars are inherently safer than smaller ones". Rubbish then and rubbish now...

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Don't drive into solid things and make full use of the electronics and driver aids!
Which is a given, your point is..

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Which is a given, your point is..
Don't expect bodywork to proved protection: It's not its role...
Keeps the rain off and benefits aerodynamics.
Shattering and bending effects are for cretinous children who run out in front of you, and pedal cyclists who need something soft to land on when they can't hear the car coming because they're wearing headphones, not for the benefit of the ownership experience...
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yep, had 2 cyclists in London, do a Garfield on my rear window due to not watching and not being able to stop as quick as a car

good job no rear wiper to do them damage as well
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yep, had 2 cyclists in London, do a Garfield on my rear window due to not watching and not being able to stop as quick as a car

good job no rear wiper to do them damage as well
Yep, something similar to `er indoors` the other day: Turning into her Industrial Estate from the fast-flowing dual carriageway she was nearly hit by an idiot cyclist `undertaking` on the cycle path. He was wearing ear buds so had no spatial awareness, and worse than that he was listening to Beyoncé .
The mirror warning system didn't alert her because he was out of the field of view of her left-turning car.

Fortunately, he admitted liability and only fell off to the inside, so missing the car. He did not, however, apologise for Beyoncé...
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I'll second that plastic/organic panels are amazing,

Yes we had a fine business in colour change for the SMART cars I used to sell.

Nine panels just bolted on, took about half an hour to completely change the colour of the car. Used to do a fine line in interior colour accents, to match the `new` exterior...

Particularly loved by personal plate owners who could fool the neighbours they'd bought a new car and just transferred the number across..!

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But note the 50-'s hangover in this Noughties article: "IIHS testers caution that larger, heavier cars are inherently safer than smaller ones". Rubbish then and rubbish now...
As long as the passenger compartment stays intact, the relative weights of the vehicles in a collisions has a dramatic effect on safety. The lighter of the two vehicles will experience the greatest acceleration in the event - given that f=ma, lower acceleration means a lower force placed on the occupants (with safety features further reducing the forces)

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